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    • RGN01undefined
      RGN01
      last edited by

      @number40fan:

      M665 R246.6 L440.0 B180 H443

      Try this and see what happens.

      I have that already - after changing it earlier.

      In an effort to fix the 'freezing' problem, I replaced deployprobe.g - it now reacts to the G30 command without freezing - but the original problem returns and it ignores a touch on the nozzle during the G30 operation.

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      • number40fanundefined
        number40fan
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        Notes from the Wiki.

        Version 1.19

        Upgrade notes from version 1.18.2:
        •Recommended DuetWebControl version is 1.19
        •Recommended DuetWiFiServer version is 1.19
        •Important! If you use an IR Z probe or some other type that does not need to be deployed, delete the files sys/deployprobe and sys/retractprobe.g if they exist, because they are now called automatically. You can do this in the System Files Editor of the web interface.

        You do need those two files removed, so your issue is somewhere else.

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        • number40fanundefined
          number40fan
          last edited by

          So, now when the nozzle is at the bed, the web interface reads 0 for Z height?

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          • RGN01undefined
            RGN01
            last edited by

            @number40fan:

            Notes from the Wiki.

            Version 1.19

            Upgrade notes from version 1.18.2:
            •Recommended DuetWebControl version is 1.19
            •Recommended DuetWiFiServer version is 1.19
            •Important! If you use an IR Z probe or some other type that does not need to be deployed, delete the files sys/deployprobe and sys/retractprobe.g if they exist, because they are now called automatically. You can do this in the System Files Editor of the web interface.

            You do need those two files removed, so your issue is somewhere else.

            If I remove deployprobe.g then I get the freezing issue. It contains the following:

            [[language]]
            ; Probe deployment routine for Mini Kossel
            M564 S0					; don't apply limits
            G1 X25 Y93 Z40 F10000	; put probe arm next to belt
            G1 X-5 F500				; move probe arm across belt
            G1 X12 F1000			; move probe back
            G1 X0 Y0 F10000			; move to somewhere sensible
            M564 S1					; apply limits again
            
            

            With that file in place, it seems to execute the commands, then probes the bed (green LED flash) and then stops with z=-0.1. Without that file it does none of those operations and enters a permanently busy state.

            I will try and comment those lines out 1 by 1 to find which one is required to make G30 work.

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            • number40fanundefined
              number40fan
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              @RGN01:

              I've also homed the printer and slowly dropped the nozzle until it just touches the bed. The Z-height readings were:
              Homed: 645.0
              Touching bed: 212.5

              This is what I don't get. When you home a printer, it doesn't count how far it moved until it activates the endstop switches. It just moves until it hits them, backs off, moves slowly until it hits again and usually moves away 5mm or so. That is your homed height. The Duet then uses your H number from M665 to determine how far above the bed the nozzle is. How was yours showing 645 with 550 in the M665? Do you have a config-override.g file?

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              • RGN01undefined
                RGN01
                last edited by

                @number40fan:

                @RGN01:

                I've also homed the printer and slowly dropped the nozzle until it just touches the bed. The Z-height readings were:
                Homed: 645.0
                Touching bed: 212.5

                This is what I don't get. When you home a printer, it doesn't count how far it moved until it activates the endstop switches. It just moves until it hits them, backs off, moves slowly until it hits again and usually moves away 5mm or so. That is your homed height. The Duet then uses your H number from M665 to determine how far above the bed the nozzle is. How was yours showing 645 with 550 in the M665? Do you have a config-override.g file?

                Yes, there is a config-override.g file with a warning not to edit it as it is machine generated.

                With the deployprobe.g file as below, G30 seems to work (although it does leave the nozzle at -0.1)

                [[language]]
                G1 X0 Y0 F25000			; move to somewhere sensible
                
                

                Without that file, or with that line commented out, G30 does not work.

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                • MoS-tekknixundefined
                  MoS-tekknix
                  last edited by

                  Do you have a config-override.g file?

                  Good point, that is always pain in the ass if you forget it 😉

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                  • number40fanundefined
                    number40fan
                    last edited by

                    Can you paste what is in it?

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                    • MoS-tekknixundefined
                      MoS-tekknix
                      last edited by

                      Please show us your config-override.g

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                      • RGN01undefined
                        RGN01
                        last edited by

                        @number40fan:

                        @RGN01:

                        I've also homed the printer and slowly dropped the nozzle until it just touches the bed. The Z-height readings were:
                        Homed: 645.0
                        Touching bed: 212.5

                        This is what I don't get. When you home a printer, it doesn't count how far it moved until it activates the endstop switches. It just moves until it hits them, backs off, moves slowly until it hits again and usually moves away 5mm or so. That is your homed height. The Duet then uses your H number from M665 to determine how far above the bed the nozzle is. How was yours showing 645 with 550 in the M665? Do you have a config-override.g file?

                        OK, just realised that was a typo - 645 should have been 445. I'm really sorry for the confusion!

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                        • MoS-tekknixundefined
                          MoS-tekknix
                          last edited by

                          No need to say sorry for anything. Still interessted in the override-settings….

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                          • number40fanundefined
                            number40fan
                            last edited by

                            Have you ran anything that required a M500 command like a hotend or heat bed calibration?

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                            • RGN01undefined
                              RGN01
                              last edited by

                              @number40fan:

                              Have you ran anything that required a M500 command like a hotend or heat bed calibration?

                              Yes, I did that twice - for bed PID and hotend PID auto tune.

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                              • number40fanundefined
                                number40fan
                                last edited by

                                @RGN01:

                                OK, just realised that was a typo - 645 should have been 445. I'm really sorry for the confusion!

                                But it still showed 212 touching the bed?

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                                • MoS-tekknixundefined
                                  MoS-tekknix
                                  last edited by

                                  Please paste the content in.

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                                  • RGN01undefined
                                    RGN01
                                    last edited by

                                    The config-override.g file looks like this:

                                    [[language]]
                                    ; This is a system-generated file - do not edit
                                    ; Delta parameters
                                    M665 R246.6 L440.0 B180 H433
                                    M666 X0.000 Y0.000 Z0.000 A0.00 B0.00
                                    ; Heater model parameters
                                    M307 H0 A645.6 C1147.3 D12.1 S1.00 B0
                                    M307 H1 A533.4 C223.7 D3.0 S1.00 B0
                                    M307 H2 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 B0
                                    M307 H3 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 B0
                                    M307 H4 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 B0
                                    M307 H5 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 B0
                                    M307 H6 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 B0
                                    M307 H7 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 B0
                                    ; Z probe parameters
                                    G31 T1 P100 X0.0 Y0.0 Z-0.10
                                    G31 T3 P500 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.70
                                    G31 T4 P500 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.00
                                    
                                    
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                                    • RGN01undefined
                                      RGN01
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                                      I removed the bed to check on the fans in the control box. After re-installing,, the homed Z-height now reads 441.39 and it reads 9.39 when touching the bed.

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                                      • MoS-tekknixundefined
                                        MoS-tekknix
                                        last edited by

                                        Mhh, the override File looks okay to me.

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                                        • RGN01undefined
                                          RGN01
                                          last edited by

                                          It really has me confused!

                                          Even more so - I've now deleted that deployprobe.g file and it now runs G30 OK!
                                          Homed, Z-height is 441.39, touching bed it is 0 so that looks OK to me.

                                          The only thing still worrying me is that the G30 leaves the nozzle set at -0.1 - how do I change that so that it retracts and clears the bed afterwards?

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                                          • number40fanundefined
                                            number40fan
                                            last edited by

                                            The G30 is only going to probe once. That is all. G32 time.

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