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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators @oliof
      last edited by

      @oliof I believe it will reach the full speed as defined by the lesser of the F parameter and the M303 limits, provided that the acceleration limits is high enough and the move long enough to reach that speed. The requested and top speeds will be shown by DWC if the sample shown by DWC happens during the move.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • martinkundefined
        martink @nuroo
        last edited by

        @nuroo

        Don't know if related, but before this plugin was available, when I first got my accelerometer, I wrote some gcode to collect accelerometer data for a number of moves along x, y axes and diagonals (8 M956 measurements per run of my macro).

        After running the macro successfully several times, RRF (a 3.4 beta at the time) crashed (during one of the M956 commands, I think) and I had to hard reset the board. I think I even had to cut 5V power (i.e. unplug the USB between my RPi and my Duet 2).

        Like in your case, this only happened after many measurements. Also, like you, my accelerometer is connected to the Duex (spi.cs8+spi.cs7 in my case). But my wiring was a cat5 cable with an IDC connector on the duet end and 5 pin + 2 pin JST XH connectors on the accelerometer end (Adafruit LIS3DH).

        On that day, I could repro the problem a couple times. But by the time I was going to report the problem and collect some debug logs, it stopped reproducing for me. I haven't tried the new plugin yet.

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        • nurooundefined
          nuroo @martink
          last edited by nuroo

          @martink
          Was the strangest thing. I know my harness was "fugazi", but if yours was legit. If it's something else like a power panic or buffer over flow I'll try the hard power reset next time.
          Thanks for posting your experience. Felt like printer was trolling me, 😂

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          • Diamondbackundefined
            Diamondback
            last edited by

            Nice work! 🙂

            Little bug report: I'm being displayed this message despite not having any toolboards. My printer IS a TC, however, it uses a Duet 2 + Duex5 and a standalone accelerometer.

            2022-04-08_21-56-43.png

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            • chrishammundefined
              chrishamm administrators @Diamondback
              last edited by

              @diamondback Thanks, I'll fix it in the next version.

              Duet software engineer

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              • RatRig0331undefined
                RatRig0331
                last edited by

                I’m new to using the accelerometer, everything seems happy with the set up and wiring I have, but when I go to run this plugin the printer head rapids to the right and than the duet mainboard shuts down and restarts. I’ve tried it 4 times and the same thing every time happens. I’m using it on a rat rig xy core set up 500x500x500mm

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                • jay_s_ukundefined
                  jay_s_uk @RatRig0331
                  last edited by

                  @ratrig0331 post an output from M122 after the reboot occurs

                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                  • bekzclz11undefined
                    bekzclz11
                    last edited by

                    his is a simple demo plugin for DWC 3.4.0 to be uploaded either on "Upload&Start", "System Files", or "Plugins -> External Plugins".
                    It registers a new tab under Settings -> Machine -> Endstops where the endstop states of each axis can be observed.

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                    • ctilley79undefined
                      ctilley79
                      last edited by

                      @SputnikOC3d download this Steve.

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                      • RatRig0331undefined
                        RatRig0331 @jay_s_uk
                        last edited by

                        @jay_s_uk
                        m122
                        === Diagnostics ===
                        RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 Mini 5+ version 3.4.0 (2022-03-15 18:59:15) running on Duet 3 Mini5plus WiFi (SBC mode)
                        Board ID: G1R6K-M396U-D65J0-40KM4-3G03Z-HZ0QD
                        Used output buffers: 1 of 40 (16 max)
                        === RTOS ===
                        Static ram: 103684
                        Dynamic ram: 100772 of which 20 recycled
                        Never used RAM 37236, free system stack 206 words
                        Tasks: ACCEL(notifyWait,0.0%,346) SBC(ready,3.6%,473) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,358) Move(notifyWait,0.0%,363) CanReceiv(notifyWait,0.0%,942) CanSender(notifyWait,0.0%,372) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,339) TMC(notifyWait,1.2%,115) MAIN(running,94.4%,384) IDLE(ready,0.0%,29) AIN(delaying,0.8%,264), total 100.0%
                        Owned mutexes: HTTP(MAIN)
                        === Platform ===
                        Last reset 00:02:51 ago, cause: software
                        Last software reset at 2022-04-13 22:15, reason: HeatTaskStuck, GCodes spinning, available RAM 33300, slot 2
                        Software reset code 0x4143 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0000080f BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x20031c0c Task ACCE Freestk 334 ok
                        Stack: 00000001 00053fcc 210c0000 00000000 404b5800 369dc3a0 3edb7e85 3331bb4c 40000000 b5ddc58d 388ab355 bb360b61 3e2aaaab 3f800000 42fa0000 3ca3d70a 40000000 43800000 3d600000 00000000 00053e1f 20031588 20031588 00000006 0008649f 00000000 20031588
                        Error status: 0x00
                        Aux0 errors 0,0,0
                        MCU revision 3, ADC conversions started 171323, completed 171323, timed out 0, errs 0
                        Step timer max interval 1472
                        MCU temperature: min 31.1, current 31.1, max 32.8
                        Supply voltage: min 24.0, current 24.0, max 24.0, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                        Heap OK, handles allocated/used 0/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 0/0/0, gc cycles 0
                        Events: 0 queued, 0 completed
                        Driver 0: standstill, SG min 2, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 135, reads 9165, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
                        Driver 1: standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 135, reads 9165, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
                        Driver 2: standstill, SG min 2, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 135, reads 9166, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
                        Driver 3: standstill, SG min 58, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 137, reads 9166, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
                        Driver 4: standstill, SG min 78, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 137, reads 9165, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
                        Driver 5: standstill, SG min 170, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 119, reads 9165, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
                        Driver 6: standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 69, reads 9166, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
                        Date/time: 2022-04-13 22:18:32
                        Cache data hit count 376716422
                        Slowest loop: 7.60ms; fastest: 0.09ms
                        === Storage ===
                        Free file entries: 10
                        SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 0.0MBytes/sec
                        SD card longest read time 0.0ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
                        === Move ===
                        DMs created 83, segments created 0, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
                        === MainDDARing ===
                        Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                        === AuxDDARing ===
                        Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                        === Heat ===
                        Bed heaters 0 -1 -1 -1, chamber heaters 2 -1 -1 -1, ordering errs 0
                        Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
                        === GCodes ===
                        Segments left: 0
                        Movement lock held by null
                        HTTP* is doing "M122" in state(s) 0
                        Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                        File is idle in state(s) 0
                        USB is idle in state(s) 0
                        Aux is idle in state(s) 0
                        Trigger* is idle in state(s) 0
                        Queue is idle in state(s) 0
                        LCD is idle in state(s) 0
                        SBC is idle in state(s) 0
                        Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                        Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
                        Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                        Code queue is empty
                        === CAN ===
                        Messages queued 907, received 0, lost 0, boc 0
                        Longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, peak Tx sync delay 0, free buffers 18 (min 18), ts 504/0/0
                        Tx timeouts 0,0,504,0,0,403 last cancelled message type 30 dest 127
                        === SBC interface ===
                        Transfer state: 4, failed transfers: 0, checksum errors: 0
                        RX/TX seq numbers: 12442/6677
                        SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
                        State: 5, disconnects: 0, timeouts: 0, IAP RAM available 0x0f1ec
                        Buffer RX/TX: 0/0-0, open files: 0
                        === Duet Control Server ===
                        Duet Control Server v3.4.0
                        Code buffer space: 4096
                        Configured SPI speed: 8000000Hz, TfrRdy pin glitches: 0
                        Full transfers per second: 38.79, max time between full transfers: 43.2ms, max pin wait times: 27.7ms/0.2ms
                        Codes per second: 0.01
                        Maximum length of RX/TX data transfers: 4204/1532

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators @RatRig0331
                          last edited by

                          @ratrig0331 thanks for your M122 report. I've seen this issue once before. I am fairly sure it is caused by problems with the accelerometer wiring that result in communication issues between the accelerometer and the Duet.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • Schild0rundefined
                            Schild0r
                            last edited by Schild0r

                            I noticed just today, that this plugin existed. Must have been two days before release or so that I wrote a macro myself for doing this. (see below)

                            Turns out I basically hit bullseye by accident with my shaper settings after running my macro and now comparing the results with the plugin, just because I did not know that MZV would dampen two frequency amplitudes and the second one did luckily coincide perfectly with the amplitude of my x-axis

                            But the user Interface of the plugin is very good especially the merged frequency analyses of multiple axis and the damping curves preview for the shapers.
                            Only thing I would like to add though are inputs for the acceleration and speed at which the accelerometer data is collected.
                            Just a little QOL thing with e.g. a tickbox for "use maximum speeds and accelerations from current config" and if you untick it, you can enter your own values so that they are set before starting the sequence automatically instead of the user having to enter them manually before going to the plugin.
                            Oh and returning the printhead back to the center position after the last move would not trigger my OCD 😂

                            Also a little sidenote if a dev reads this:
                            We now have Height Map in the Control tab
                            The Accelerometer Viewer in Machine Specific under the Settings tab
                            and the Input Shaping Plugin under the Plugins tab
                            One could also debate about the G-Code Viewer (I personally like it under the Job tab) but at least the above three (and maybe even the Object Model browser) are pretty similar and thus should be under the same tab IMO.
                            Please feel free to discuss my opinion though.

                            the macro if anyone is interested:

                            var origXAccel = move.axes[0].acceleration
                            var origYAccel = move.axes[1].acceleration
                            var feedrate = move.axes[0].speed
                            
                            if exists(param.F)
                            	set var.feedrate = {param.F}
                            	echo "speed for accelerometer data collection:", {var.feedrate/60}, "mm/s"
                            else
                            	echo "param.F not provided, instead maximum speed (X) is used for accelerometer data collection:", {var.feedrate/60}, "mm/s"
                            
                            G28
                            G1 X{move.axes[0].max/2} Y{move.axes[1].max/2} F9000
                            
                            if exists(param.A)
                            	echo "setting X and Y acceleration to", {param.A}, "mm/s^2"
                            	M201 X{param.A} Y{param.A}
                            	M201
                            else
                            	echo "param.A not provided, using current accelerations X:", {var.origXAccel}, "mm/s^2, Y:", {var.origXAccel}, "mm/s^2"
                            
                            echo "collecting acceleration data for X-Axis"
                            G91 ; relative positioning
                            G1 X-50 F9000
                            G4 S2 
                            M956 P21.0 S1000 A1 F"inputShapingX.csv"
                            G1 X100 F{var.feedrate} 
                            G4 S2
                            
                            echo "collecting acceleration data for Y-Axis"
                            G1 X-50 Y-50 F9000
                            G4 S2 
                            M956 P21.0 S1000 A1 F"inputShapingY.csv"
                            G1 Y100 F{var.feedrate} 
                            G4 S2
                            G1 Y-50 F9000
                            G90 ; absolute positioning
                            
                            if exists(param.A)
                            	echo "reverting changes in acceleration"
                            	M201 X{var.origXAccel} Y{var.origYAccel}
                            	M201
                            
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                            • T3P3Tonyundefined
                              T3P3Tony administrators @Schild0r
                              last edited by

                              @schild0r said in New Input Shaping plugin v3.4.0-b1:

                              We now have Height Map in the Control tab
                              The Accelerometer Viewer in Machine Specific under the Settings tab
                              and the Input Shaping Plugin under the Plugins tab
                              One could also debate about the G-Code Viewer (I personally like it under the Job tab) but at least the above three (and maybe even the Object Model browser) are pretty similar and thus should be under the same tab IMO.

                              this is a good point. The different features are implemented at different levels of "core" from build in from a long time ago to a new and experimental plugin, so the UI location is more based on that than on a logical place for them to be from a user use perspective. We will think about how this could work going forward, especailly as we want to encourage more plugins to the UI.

                              www.duet3d.com

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                              • RatRig0331undefined
                                RatRig0331 @dc42
                                last edited by

                                @dc42
                                It did seem to be my connections I soldered the wires directly to the accelerometer chip with a pig tail plug vs the screw post terminals I had soldered to the chip and everything seems fine now, I still have no clue what to do with the data collected yet but I’m here to learn

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @RatRig0331
                                  last edited by

                                  @ratrig0331 I'm glad it's working now.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  • chrishammundefined
                                    chrishamm administrators
                                    last edited by

                                    Version 3.4.1 is now available to fix the record dialog for users who have tools with gaps defined (e.g. T1 but no T0).

                                    In addition, the shaper prediction now supports custom shapers - just make sure to be on 3.4.1 before you attempt to use this feature. When you enable it, the shaper parameters are copied from the current input shaper and by using the arrow keys in the edit dialog inputs, you can immediately get an estimate of the resulting damping curve. There is no further documentation about this feature yet and most users should not need it either. I meant to release v3.4.0 with this feature enabled but it still required a fix from v3.4.1.

                                    Duet software engineer

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                                    • Adamfilipundefined
                                      Adamfilip @chrishamm
                                      last edited by Adamfilip

                                      Is there an easy to follow wiring diagram for the LIS3DH and the Duet2Wifi.
                                      I find matching pins tricky and confusing that are listed on
                                      https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Tuning/Input_shaping_plugin

                                      need something for my simpler brain lol

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                                      • Fred-Yundefined
                                        Fred-Y @chrishamm
                                        last edited by

                                        @chrishamm Installed it this evening on my Predator, it's fairly easy to use and compare the different graphs.

                                        I would suggest 2 things:
                                        1- Add the damping factor used in the records
                                        f414af43-5c79-4b63-b13f-0a424a430353-image.png
                                        I started to "play" with the damping factor to see the impact on the graphs but I lost track of the value used at one point.

                                        2- It took me a little bit of time to realize that I needed to click on the check-mark for set the Shaper Center Frequency and Damping factor.
                                        ba38a444-1de6-4f32-b150-4aee54522690-image.png
                                        I think I was "deceived" because changing the Shaper Center value immediately moves the blue bar in the graph so I wrongly assumed it would use it when doing a new record.
                                        I must admit that I didn't paid much attention to the summary in the first modal box.

                                        This has been mentioned before, I don't know if it has been fixed in this beta but I'm getting this message as well
                                        f38a9d4f-ffc3-40a2-9aa4-015284a7a722-image.png
                                        This printer has a Duet 2 Wifi and a Smart Effector v3

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                                        • Adamfilipundefined
                                          Adamfilip
                                          last edited by

                                          Wish there was a video tutorial on the input shaping process with RRF and this plugin. So much content using klipper, yet to find one with duet

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                                          • oliofundefined
                                            oliof @Adamfilip
                                            last edited by

                                            @adamfilip by and large, the procedure is the same, with the distinction that the tooling around using the accelerometer on Klipper is (naturally) a bit more mature. Not many people do RRF videos though ... but there is not much to it.

                                            1. on belt driven axes, multiple peaks on one axis indicate something is loose and is adding additional vibrations. Trying to find those and fixing them is a valuable venture anyways.
                                            2. on kinematics combining drives such CoreXY it is desirable that the measured curves match, since it indicates similar tension. Do not confuse this with finding the right tension though. That is dependent on belt lengths and your motion system.
                                            3. On Cartesian systems, individual axes may have different curves.
                                            4. On RepRapFirmware -- other than klipper -- you can only set one input shaping algorithm, frequency, and damping setting. In practice, the damping factor is enough to cover the usual span of different frequencies on different axes.
                                            5. The InputShaping plugin visualizes the measured vibration per axis, but also a recommended frequency, and you can tell it to show the effect on the frequency graph by a given algorithm and damping factor. Ideally, the damping factor is as low as possible to reduce the effect of input shaping on speeds/accelerations that aren't inducing ringing.
                                            6. It's likely useful to retune PA after tuning input shaping since there is some interaction between InputShaping and PA.

                                            <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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