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    • DaveAundefined
      DaveA @FuseDeep
      last edited by

      @fusedeep If I understand correctly M119 is reporting that all stops are active. Assuming that the actual axis is not at the stop but the M119 is reporting that the stop has been hit then I would expect exactly what you are seeing.
      Check that the configuration of the M574 exactly matches what you have for switches paying close attention to the !
      and ^ options.

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      • samlogan87undefined
        samlogan87
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        You say your using normally open endstops. I am only doing this off memory as I am on holiday at the moment and am doing this off my phone but I am pretty sure you need to invert the pin as it is recommended to use normally closed. So to do that on the m574 line where you are defining your end stop you need to do P"!xstop"

        Custom Core-XY

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @FuseDeep
          last edited by Phaedrux

          @fusedeep said in directions wrong and no zero...:

          Main issues;

          • Option to extrude does not appear on web control even when nozzle at 220 degrees. buttons greyed out.

          It sounds like the tool is not selected and I don't see a T0 in your config.g to select it at startup, so please try adding T0 at the end of config.g

          • When selecting home for any axis, only 5mm movement along axis. Does not continue until micro switch/es

          This sounds like the endstop is already triggered at the start of the move and the 5mm movement you are seeing is the backoff movement. The last few posters have identified what needs to be done there.

          If M119 says the axis are at the endstops when they are not physically there, then the endstop signal needs to be inverted.

          So for each axis that says it's at the endstop when it's not actually you would need to add a ! to the pin name to invert it.

          Like so
          M574 X1 S1 P"!xstop"

          Test homing carefully after that and make sure the axis are moving in the correct direction towards the endstop. If they move in the wrong direction, e stop/cut power. Report back if that's the case.

          • Part cooling fan starts at 100% but should not, can't work out how to leave it on gcode control, it is currently not on temp control afaik.

          Plus, temp controlled fan is not working, though does occasionally. Grr

          ; Fans
          M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
          M106 P0 S0 H0 T40 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
          M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
          M106 P1 S1 H-1 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
          
          ; Tools
          M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
          

          This section has some problems. Currently it has fan0 as thermostatically controlled to turn on when the bed temp is 40c and also assigns that fan as the part cooling fan. Fan1 is setup as a gcode controlled fan.

          To be able to tell you how to fix that I need to know which fan is physically located where. Ideally Fan0 should be the part cooling fan. If that is the case the section should look like this

          ; Fans
          M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 
          M106 P0 S0 H-1 
          M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 
          M106 P1 S1 H1 T40 
          
          ; Tools
          M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
          

          M552 S2 is correct to turn on the access point mode for the wifi.

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          • FuseDeepundefined
            FuseDeep @Phaedrux
            last edited by

            @phaedrux

            Thanks for all of the above. it is starting to make sense.

            Have the axis moving the right way, but not doing the slow bump return on homing however.

            Major problem now, the green led by the wifi model is gone, so no wifi AND my laptop COM ports have literally F'd off.

            So cannot connect to board at all.

            Bloody annoying.

            I have tried disabling com/lpt and restarting. my COM ports have literally gone and I can't fix it or connect to duet board.

            Plus, there is no reason the wifi should have gone off, nothing got changed...

            Really grinding my gears this time!

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @FuseDeep
              last edited by

              @fusedeep said in directions wrong and no zero...:

              Major problem now, the green led by the wifi model is gone, so no wifi AND my laptop COM ports have literally F'd off.

              This is with the USB cable still connected from your computer to the Duet?

              Frederick

              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • FuseDeepundefined
                FuseDeep @fcwilt
                last edited by

                @fcwilt

                yes, no wifi and com ports totaly gone/dead.

                Have tried a new terminal, no better.

                Literally the entire com port part of my laptop is fried, AND the wifi to the duet is gone, so I cannot contact the board.

                There is no reason for the wifi status to change.

                This is getting silly now...

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                • FuseDeepundefined
                  FuseDeep @fcwilt
                  last edited by

                  @fcwilt

                  YAT won't re install as framework won't fully update. I uninstalled yat and am now using putty, but it is showing the same errors, no com ports.

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @FuseDeep
                    last edited by

                    @fusedeep said in directions wrong and no zero...:

                    @fcwilt

                    YAT won't re install as framework won't fully update. I uninstalled yat and am now using putty, but it is showing the same errors, no com ports.

                    When trying to communicate with the Duet via the USB cable was the Duet board getting power from another source via the Vin connections?

                    Was your laptop running of it's batteries or the charger?

                    Thanks.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • FuseDeepundefined
                      FuseDeep @fcwilt
                      last edited by

                      @fcwilt @Phaedrux

                      I think my duet board is borked.

                      When I take out the mouse usb it dings at me, and when I put it back in it dings again.

                      No response to the usb plug from duet, nor wifi light(this should be on).

                      Balls.

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                      • FuseDeepundefined
                        FuseDeep @fcwilt
                        last edited by

                        @fcwilt yes, board plugged into 24v feed as usual to run printer for testing.

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                        • FuseDeepundefined
                          FuseDeep @fcwilt
                          last edited by

                          @fcwilt laptop on mains and battery works fine.

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @FuseDeep
                            last edited by

                            @fusedeep said in directions wrong and no zero...:

                            @fcwilt yes, board plugged into 24v feed as usual to run printer for testing.

                            I cannot be sure since I don't know the details of your 24 volt power supply and your laptop but it is possible, under certain circumstances, when the Duet is getting power from both sources (the 24 power supply and the USB cable) that damage to the Duet can occur.

                            I'm not saying this is what has happened but it might have happened.

                            If your Duet is damaged and you proceed with getting it repaired or replaced you might want to consider using my approach to getting a Duet up and running. I don't use the USB connection, rather I pull the SD card and connect it to my computer via a SD card reader/writer device. Then I create a minimal config.g file on the SD card with just the commands need to get the WiFi up and running. When the config.g file is ready I return the SD card to the Duet and apply power. Once WiFi is up then I can do the rest of the configuration via the DWC editor.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by

                              There is the possibility that it has been damaged by a ground loop through the USB connection.

                              Can you show a photo of the board when connected to just USB so that we can see the lights?
                              Same for when just connected to VIN.
                              Close up photos of the board may show if a component has failed as well, such as a regulator.
                              You can also check with your finger to see if any component gets very hot.

                              For more detailed steps on how to check what is working or not please go through this guide and let us now what you find.
                              https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Troubleshooting/Duet_wont_respond

                              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                              • FuseDeepundefined
                                FuseDeep @Phaedrux
                                last edited by

                                @phaedrux

                                Jesus. I won't be too impressed if this is the case. It's a 150 quid unit!

                                How is that even possible?

                                For some reason this set up has been a proper nightmare. Fusedeep was much simpler and that was my first go!

                                Will look at it and send images.

                                Rich

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @FuseDeep
                                  last edited by

                                  @fusedeep said in directions wrong and no zero...:

                                  How is that even possible?

                                  https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Overview/USB_ground_loops

                                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                  • FuseDeepundefined
                                    FuseDeep @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by

                                    @phaedrux

                                    Well, all power supplied from the same socket block.

                                    Unfortunately I needed to keep the usb plugged in because the wifi kept disappearing.

                                    All cables well rated ref v-/ground.

                                    It's been a really bad experience with duet, after the initial success with fusedeep.

                                    It has also chewed up hours of my time.

                                    Am extremely frustrated and disappointed in all honesty.

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      I understand your frustration and I'm sorry your experience hasn't been smooth.

                                      USB ground loop is a possibility, but I'm not certain.

                                      At any rate, the best we can do now is follow the guide here and see what the status of the board actually is. Either we can recover, or the board has failed and would need to be replaced under warranty.

                                      https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Troubleshooting/Duet_wont_respond

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                                      • FuseDeepundefined
                                        FuseDeep @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by

                                        @phaedrux

                                        I'll take a deep breath and look at it tomorrow.

                                        Thanks to everyone's advice so far.

                                        Rich

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                                        • FuseDeepundefined
                                          FuseDeep @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by

                                          @phaedrux

                                          As per instructions on that page;

                                          disconnected power and usb.

                                          removed all end stop connectors.

                                          plugged in usb.

                                          All lights came on fine and duet wifi appeared on laptop.

                                          Also got usb bell noise.

                                          However; laptop unable to open any com terminal with yat/putty (yat would not reinstall after i removed it to reinstall it in case yat was borked).

                                          However, after unplugging usb, I reconnected the end stops and reconnected usb cable. back to 2 red led and no wifi .

                                          Seems kaput to me. I think it has also fried my laptop com ports too.

                                          I do remember being recommended a 75 gbp duet board for the makergear m2 rebrain a while back, but iirc it has no wifi option?

                                          Is there a cheaper option than the duet 2 for me?

                                          Good lord.

                                          Rich

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                                          • fcwiltundefined
                                            fcwilt @FuseDeep
                                            last edited by fcwilt

                                            @fusedeep

                                            Did you verify the wiring of the endstops and that they were not shorting out the 3.3 volt power?

                                            When you made the USB connection you heard the typical USB connection sound which suggests your USB port is still working.

                                            Just FYI, COM ports over a USB connection are virtual - there is nothing to fry - other than the USB port itself.

                                            The least expensive Duet I know of is the Maestro but I don't know if they are making that anymore.

                                            The next would be the Duet 3 Mini 5+ which is a very nice board.

                                            Frederick

                                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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