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  • undefined
    Gixxerfast @PCR
    last edited by Gixxerfast 14 Nov 2021, 15:13

    @pcr

    2021-11-14 16:12:30	m122
    === Diagnostics ===
    RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 Mini 5+ version 3.4.0beta6 (2021-11-06 11:39:32) running on Duet 3 Mini5plus WiFi (standalone mode)
    Board ID: H1668-Y296U-D65J0-40KMA-KR03Z-RK6ZH
    Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (15 max)
    === RTOS ===
    Static ram: 103876
    Dynamic ram: 117976 of which 12 recycled
    Never used RAM 16872, free system stack 144 words
    Tasks: NETWORK(ready,15.1%,250) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,344) Move(notifyWait,0.0%,284) CanReceiv(notifyWait,0.0%,772) CanSender(notifyWait,0.0%,372) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,346) TMC(notifyWait,1.2%,71) MAIN(running,82.8%,428) IDLE(ready,0.0%,29) AIN(delaying,0.8%,264), total 100.0%
    Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK)
    === Platform ===
    Last reset 01:19:42 ago, cause: software
    Last software reset at 2021-11-14 14:52, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 14392, slot 1
    Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00000000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
    Error status: 0x00
    MCU revision 3, ADC conversions started 4782369, completed 4782369, timed out 0, errs 0
    Step timer max interval 1489
    MCU temperature: min 32.6, current 32.8, max 34.8
    Supply voltage: min 24.0, current 24.0, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
    Heap OK, handles allocated/used 99/6, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 2048/352/272, gc cycles 0
    Driver 0: pos 35200, standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 192, reads 41496, writes 19, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
    Driver 1: pos -11200, standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 191, reads 41496, writes 19, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
    Driver 2: pos 4000, standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 109, reads 41505, writes 9, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
    Driver 3: pos 0, standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 93, reads 41498, writes 16, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
    Driver 4: pos 0, standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 96, reads 41499, writes 16, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
    Driver 5: pos 0, standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 94, reads 41498, writes 16, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
    Driver 6: pos 0, standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 95, reads 41498, writes 16, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
    Date/time: 2021-11-14 16:12:27
    Cache data hit count 4294967295
    Slowest loop: 12.07ms; fastest: 0.13ms
    === Storage ===
    Free file entries: 10
    SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 22.5MBytes/sec
    SD card longest read time 3.9ms, write time 3.8ms, max retries 0
    === Move ===
    DMs created 83, segments created 5, maxWait 55298ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
    === MainDDARing ===
    Scheduled moves 31, completed 31, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 1], CDDA state -1
    === AuxDDARing ===
    Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
    === Heat ===
    Bed heaters 0 -1, chamber heaters -1 -1, ordering errs 0
    Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
    === GCodes ===
    Segments left: 0
    Movement lock held by null
    HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
    Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
    File is idle in state(s) 0
    USB is idle in state(s) 0
    Aux is idle in state(s) 0
    Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
    Queue is idle in state(s) 0
    LCD is idle in state(s) 0
    SBC is idle in state(s) 0
    Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
    Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
    Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
    Code queue is empty
    === CAN ===
    Messages queued 43071, received 95868, lost 0, longest wait 3ms for reply type 6049, peak Tx sync delay 266, free buffers 17 (min 16), ts 23912/23911/0
    Tx timeouts 0,0,0,0,0,0
    === Network ===
    Slowest loop: 82.71ms; fastest: 0.00ms
    Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
    HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
    - WiFi -
    Network state is active
    WiFi module is connected to access point 
    Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
    WiFi firmware version 1.26
    WiFi MAC address f0:08:d1:02:eb:c9
    WiFi Vcc 3.36, reset reason Power up
    WiFi flash size 2097152, free heap 23120
    WiFi IP address 192.168.1.70
    WiFi signal strength -56dBm, mode 802.11n, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
    Clock register 00002002
    Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    

    3a907da0-cb73-4f7c-8173-e4f8b554ff03-image.png

    Voron V2.4 (#1317) with Duet 3 Mini5+ Wifi and 1LC v1.1 Toolboard
    Voron V0.1 (#637) with Duet 3 Mini 5+ Wifi and 1LC v1.2 Toolboard
    Ender 3 Pro with BTT SKR-2 + RRF

    undefined 1 Reply Last reply 14 Nov 2021, 15:15 Reply Quote 0
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      PCR @Gixxerfast
      last edited by 14 Nov 2021, 15:15

      @gixxerfast strange. I have done the manual method of Klipper for getting the frequency of the ringing. Can you try this aswell.

      undefined 1 Reply Last reply 14 Nov 2021, 15:28 Reply Quote 0
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        Gixxerfast @PCR
        last edited by Gixxerfast 14 Nov 2021, 15:28

        @pcr I'll see if I can do that a bit later if I find the instructions 🙂

        It doesn't look like "MZV" is working very good here

        8568da94-ce8d-4c49-aee2-740aa3eaba5e-image.png

        Also seem like the plugin is leaving the last m593 setting. I could end with a M593 "none" or the before-value instead.

        Voron V2.4 (#1317) with Duet 3 Mini5+ Wifi and 1LC v1.1 Toolboard
        Voron V0.1 (#637) with Duet 3 Mini 5+ Wifi and 1LC v1.2 Toolboard
        Ender 3 Pro with BTT SKR-2 + RRF

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          ajdtreyd @Gixxerfast
          last edited by 14 Nov 2021, 21:49

          @gixxerfast
          From the photos it looks like either the commands failed or there were other settings preventing the modes from working.

          Watch the console/display for any errors. It looks like those commands are fine but I've had errors returned for copy/pasted commands that include quotation marks. Alternatively, you can verify the IS mode is being set correctly by running "M593" in the console during each 5mm part of the print.

          I don't know what your other settings are so I'll state the following:
          For testing the IS modes you should first be sure pressure advance has been disabled, set your accelerations (M201,M204) to 10000 for X&Y and jerk (M566) to 300 for X&Y. The print speed should be between 50-80mm/s (too slow and ringing artifacts are too close together, but too fast and they start getting smeared out and less pronounced).

          Hopefully this is helpful

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            leobg
            last edited by 20 May 2022, 17:32

            Did you get anywhere with this? I am in exact same boat (1LC+6HC on latest stable RRF 3.4.0)

            undefined 1 Reply Last reply 20 May 2022, 18:42 Reply Quote 0
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              dc42 administrators @leobg
              last edited by dc42 20 May 2022, 18:42

              @leobg and @Gixxerfast both RRF and the input shaping plugin have changed substantially since the original posts 6 months ago. Please try using RRF 3.4.0 or 3.4.1rc1 and the latest input shaping plugin, and start a new thread if the problem persists.

              Additionally, tThe snapshot of the graph in the original post was lacking the frequency scale, so I can't tell how the configured M593 parameters relate to the graph.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                RODOKAS
                last edited by 27 May 2022, 21:25

                Friends,
                I have the accelerometer installed and I speak the readings successfully using the imput shaping plugin 3.4.0 b1.
                after reading without input modeling, I apply some modeling to analyze the result, and they don't look good, I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or my mechanics are not good enough.
                I'll put images in the correct order, from the data collections made by the plugin.
                the interesting thing is that the plugin simulates the expected result with the input modeling, in these simulations the results seem very good, but when I collect data using the input modeling the actual results collected are not as good as the simulations.

                No shaper
                no shaper.jpg

                simulating zvd
                shaper zvd simu.jpg

                ZVD
                shaper zvd.jpg

                simulating zvddd
                shaper zvddd simu.jpg

                ZVDDD
                shaper zvddd.jpg

                acceler.jpg

                plug.jpg

                === Diagnostics ===
                RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.4.1rc1 (2022-05-03 09:34:00) running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                Board ID: 0JD0M-9P6M2-NW4SS-6JKF6-3SJ6N-TBWVK
                Used output buffers: 1 of 26 (14 max)
                === RTOS ===
                Static ram: 23868
                Dynamic ram: 77364 of which 12 recycled
                Never used RAM 9924, free system stack 124 words
                Tasks: NETWORK(ready,13.6%,230) ACCEL(notifyWait,0.2%,232) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,316) Move(notifyWait,0.0%,283) MAIN(running,86.0%,448) IDLE(ready,0.2%,30), total 100.0%
                Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK) HTTP(MAIN)
                === Platform ===
                Last reset 00:09:15 ago, cause: power up
                Last software reset at 2022-05-20 11:14, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 12776, slot 2
                Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0041f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
                Error status: 0x10
                Aux0 errors 0,0,0
                Step timer max interval 0
                MCU temperature: min 20.1, current 30.2, max 30.4
                Supply voltage: min 24.5, current 24.6, max 24.8, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                Heap OK, handles allocated/used 0/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 0/0/0, gc cycles 0
                Events: 0 queued, 0 completed
                Driver 0: standstill, SG min 0
                Driver 1: standstill, SG min 0
                Driver 2: standstill, SG min 0
                Driver 3: standstill, SG min 0
                Driver 4: standstill, SG min n/a
                Driver 5: 
                Driver 6: 
                Driver 7: 
                Driver 8: 
                Driver 9: 
                Driver 10: 
                Driver 11: 
                Date/time: 2022-05-23 09:41:24
                Cache data hit count 4294967295
                Slowest loop: 56.88ms; fastest: 0.19ms
                I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                === Storage ===
                Free file entries: 9
                SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                SD card longest read time 1.1ms, write time 248.2ms, max retries 0
                === Move ===
                DMs created 83, segments created 38, maxWait 448960ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                === MainDDARing ===
                Scheduled moves 20, completed 20, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 4], CDDA state -1
                === AuxDDARing ===
                Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                === Heat ===
                Bed heaters 0 -1 -1 -1, chamber heaters -1 -1 -1 -1, ordering errs 0
                Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
                === GCodes ===
                Segments left: 0
                Movement lock held by null
                HTTP is ready with "M122" in state(s) 0 0, running macro
                Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                File is idle in state(s) 0
                USB is idle in state(s) 0
                Aux is idle in state(s) 0
                Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
                Queue is idle in state(s) 0
                LCD is idle in state(s) 0
                Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                Code queue is empty
                === Filament sensors ===
                Extruder 0 sensor: ok
                === Network ===
                Slowest loop: 115.06ms; fastest: 0.00ms
                Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
                HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
                - WiFi -
                Network state is active
                WiFi module is connected to access point 
                Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
                WiFi firmware version 1.26
                WiFi MAC address 24:a1:60:2f:8d:12
                WiFi Vcc 3.40, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 26616
                WiFi IP address 192.168.1.109
                WiFi signal strength -47dBm, mode 802.11n, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                Clock register 00002002
                Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                

                After doing all the data collection, and inserting it in my config and I did a test print, I didn't see any difference, so something is really wrong
                please help me understand if i'm doing something wrong or there might be something wrong with my firmware.
                I'm using jerk of 300mm/min and accelerations of 3500mm/s2

                the accelerometer is fixed this way
                IMG_20220524_111813.jpg

                Thank you for your help!

                oliofundefined undefined 2 Replies Last reply 28 May 2022, 11:47 Reply Quote 0
                • oliofundefined
                  oliof @RODOKAS
                  last edited by 28 May 2022, 11:47

                  @rodokas in the screen shot of your configuration file,

                  1. the M593 is prepended with a semicolon,
                  2. You are using upper case for the algorithm in the P parameter
                  3. ou are using a colon to separate the decimal point in the F parameter. The former means the command is not read at all, the latter is not the right way to input the value.

                  Change

                  ;M593 P"ZVDDD" F40,9

                  to

                  M593 P"zvddd" F40.9

                  and try again.

                  <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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                    RODOKAS @RODOKAS
                    last edited by 30 May 2022, 13:08

                    @rodokas Hi friend, thanks for trying to help. where you mentioned that you have ; I was in tests, and I'm using the plugin, that screenshot was just to show how it's placed because the accelerometer code.
                    I'm doing everything inside the plugin, so at this point I don't need to worry about the 593 in the config.
                    all tests inside the plugin also go wrong.

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                    • oliofundefined
                      oliof @RODOKAS
                      last edited by 30 May 2022, 13:59

                      @rodokas I can only work with what I see (-;

                      <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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