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    • infiniteloopundefined
      infiniteloop @Nightowl
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      @nightowl999 said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

      I don't know why there are two {1} showing at the end of the file

      I'm not quite sure, either, but I think they indicate empty lines.

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      • Nightowlundefined
        Nightowl @infiniteloop
        last edited by Nightowl

        @infiniteloop said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

        but I think they indicate empty lines.

        Maybe you're right about the powerloss, then, or (sorry for asking again) the global.abort_process variable hasn't been declared?

        Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
        I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

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        • infiniteloopundefined
          infiniteloop @Nightowl
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          @nightowl999 I've added some hints to my post above. Please try them …

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          • Nightowlundefined
            Nightowl @infiniteloop
            last edited by Nightowl

            @infiniteloop It says the file's not found, but it's deffo there in my \sys folder!

            Error: in file macro line 28 column 26: meta command: control character in string
            

            OK, there was a " missing on the last line...

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            • Nightowlundefined
              Nightowl @infiniteloop
              last edited by Nightowl

              @infiniteloop Now the file looks like this:

              ; RestoreSpindleSpeed.g
              ; Spindle speed saved from running "null" CNC file
              
              ; set up the global variable abort_process so we can abort further execution of resurrect.g:
              if {!exists(global.abort_process)}
                  global abort_process = true
              else
                  set global.abort_process = true
              
              ; now comes the dialog:
              M291 S3 R"Resurrect:" P"Continue with <null>?"
              
              ; we will only arrive here if the dialog was closed with OK:
              set global.abort_process = false
              M3 S0
              
              ;EOF
              

              I'll have another go at the power fail test...

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              I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

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              • infiniteloopundefined
                infiniteloop @Nightowl
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                @nightowl999 said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

                Now the file looks like this:

                That's perfect. Before pulling the plug again, you should call resurrect-prologue.g from the console to see if you still get an error. Note, however, that your router might execute the homing moves if the construct works as expected.

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                • Nightowlundefined
                  Nightowl @infiniteloop
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                  @infiniteloop

                  Same problem. Only half a RestoreSpindleSpeed.g file...

                  Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                  I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

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                  • Nightowlundefined
                    Nightowl @infiniteloop
                    last edited by Nightowl

                    @infiniteloop

                    OK, so I called resurret-prologue.g which gave a prompt to carry on. I clicked OK and the homing sequence completed.

                    Then i got these errors:

                    31/05/2022, 12:19:04 	M292
                    Error: Bad command: {1}
                    31/05/2022, 12:19:04 	m98 P"resurrect-prologue.g"
                    Error: Bad command: {1}
                    

                    EDIT: I've deleted the {1}

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                    I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

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                    • infiniteloopundefined
                      infiniteloop @Nightowl
                      last edited by

                      @nightowl999 said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

                      Same problem. Only half a RestoreSpindleSpeed.g file...

                      So we've localised this problem: rapid power loss …

                      In the meantime, please test with a RestoreSpindleSpeed.g which you generate from the command line

                      M98 P"SaveSpindleSpeed.g"
                      

                      Proceed as suggested in my last post. Feel free to edit the S parameter of M3 if want your spindle to turn ☺

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                      • Nightowlundefined
                        Nightowl @infiniteloop
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                        @infiniteloop

                        That seems to work now.

                        Shall I try the ultimate test?

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                        • infiniteloopundefined
                          infiniteloop @Nightowl
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                          @nightowl999 said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

                          Then i got these errors:

                          That are these empty line marks who seem to be generated when I put my stuff into the code (black) box. 😠
                          Simply remove all occurrences of {1}… I just see: you did that already while I was writing 😊

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                          • infiniteloopundefined
                            infiniteloop @Nightowl
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                            @nightowl999 said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

                            Shall I try the ultimate test?

                            Without enough power to safely complete macro execution at power off, what is the definition of "ultimate"? 🤔

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                            • Nightowlundefined
                              Nightowl @infiniteloop
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                              @infiniteloop As everything is hunky dory, the "ultimate" test would be to see if everything does work. If not, a UPS might be in order 😞

                              Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                              I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                              RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                                infiniteloop @Nightowl
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                                @nightowl999 said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

                                a UPS might be in order

                                Do you have a separated 5V rail (with its own PSU) just to power the Duet?

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                                • Nightowlundefined
                                  Nightowl @infiniteloop
                                  last edited by Nightowl

                                  @infiniteloop Nope. It's just my 24V PSU

                                  I wouldn't know how to do that, but it's only the Duet that's powered from the 24V, as the spindle has it's own power supply.

                                  Still, the "ultimate" test failed at the same point, so I'm going to need to look at the 5V - or UPS - option!

                                  But surely, if the power fails, it fails. What use is a 5V supply if it's on the same mains circuit?

                                  Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                                  I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                                  RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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                                  • infiniteloopundefined
                                    infiniteloop @Nightowl
                                    last edited by infiniteloop

                                    @nightowl999 said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

                                    Nope. It's just my 24V PSU

                                    If you put your UPS on that, the Duet won't notice the loss of mains power: Without a voltage drop, M911 won't be executed … until the UPS runs out of juice. But then, you face the same situation as now.

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                                    • infiniteloopundefined
                                      infiniteloop @Nightowl
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                                      @nightowl999 said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

                                      What use is a 5V supply if it's on the same mains circuit?

                                      You could either use a large capacitor, a tiny UPS or a power bank to keep the 5V alive for a while.

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                                      • Nightowlundefined
                                        Nightowl @infiniteloop
                                        last edited by Nightowl

                                        @infiniteloop
                                        If you don't mind, is this something you would plug into the Duet's USB port, and would the power bank stay charged/charging whilst connected, then slowly (slower than the PSU) drain down giving more time to save what I need to save?

                                        Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                                        I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

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                                        • infiniteloopundefined
                                          infiniteloop @Nightowl
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                                          @nightowl999 said in Power failure and resurrection on a CNC machine:

                                          is this something you would plug into the Duet's USB port

                                          Never. All the Duet boards I know of (don't know all of them) have an optional 5V input.

                                          would the power bank stay charged/charging whilst connected

                                          That depends on the power bank. Sorry, but due to my limited knowledge, I can't give you recommendations for specific devices. Have you searched the forum on this topic yet? I didn't, but I stumbled across some related posts in the past. 👁

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                                          • Nightowlundefined
                                            Nightowl @infiniteloop
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                                            @infiniteloop OK, thank you. I'll ask this question separately then, burt I didn't want to seem impatient 🙂

                                            Again, I really appreciate the time and effort you've put in to help me with this - you've been brilliant 👍 👍

                                            Few things are more dangerous than taking the advice of someone who thinks he knows what he's doing.
                                            I'm still on my learning curve, so take everything I say with caution!

                                            RatRig 1075, Duet3 MB6HC, Sorotec SFM 1000 PV-ER milling motor, Hobbyist

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