• Tags
  • Documentation
  • Order
  • Register
  • Login
Duet3D Logo Duet3D
  • Tags
  • Documentation
  • Order
  • Register
  • Login

What Insulation do you use?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved
General Discussion
7
15
743
Loading More Posts
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • undefined
    brs
    last edited by 3 Jun 2022, 01:33

    I have a Creatbot F430 of which I'm putting on the finishing touches of a Duet upgrade. The enclosure is built like a tank yet on the other hand it is quite a heat-sink and takes a long time to get up to 60˚C. Eventually the whole box is quite warm to the touch radiating most of the heat outside the box.

    I would like to line the inside with some sort of thermal barrier. What have some folks been using and liked.

    Thanks in advance.

    undefined undefined undefined undefined 4 Replies Last reply 3 Jun 2022, 05:24 Reply Quote 0
    • undefined
      cosmowave @brs
      last edited by 3 Jun 2022, 05:24

      @brs i've used cork for insulation...

      Mankati FSXT+, DeltaTowerV2, E3D MS/TC

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • undefined
        dc42 administrators @brs
        last edited by 3 Jun 2022, 08:41

        @brs corrugated cardboard is another possibility. If you are looking for something that does not increase fire risk then you could consider fireproof insulation board.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • undefined
          sebkritikel @brs
          last edited by 3 Jun 2022, 13:14

          I use a combination of PIR insulation foam/board and open-cell polyurethane foam for my side panels. The Stratasys 1200 series printers also used (what looks and feels like) open-cell polyurethane foam as well.

          Large(ish?) IDEX - 6HC, 1HCL
          Stratasys Dimension 1200es to 6HC Conversion

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • undefined
            bubblevisor
            last edited by bubblevisor 6 Mar 2022, 15:45 3 Jun 2022, 15:45

            I extensively use self adhesive foiled rubber foam. Its the stuff that comes sometimes with heated beds for insulation. Its actually manufactured as automotive engine bay sound and heat insulation. In my opinion this knocks the socks off all other options. Easy to install, cheap and very effective. My enclosures are all passively heated and achieve 74degrees consistently. Heres the aliexpress link. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001475455913.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.21ef1802dXxfYm

            undefined 1 Reply Last reply 4 Jun 2022, 01:35 Reply Quote 3
            • undefined
              brs @bubblevisor
              last edited by brs 6 Apr 2022, 01:43 4 Jun 2022, 01:35

              @bubblevisor said in What Insulation do you use?:

              https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001475455913.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.21ef1802dXxfYm

              Just the kind of stuff I was hoping to find.
              T H A N K - Y O U

              Is that 74˚C?
              Searching amazon for "Car Hood Engine Firewall Heat Mat Deadener" brought up several offering from UXCELL. Delivery Monday is better than late July with aliex.

              undefined 1 Reply Last reply 4 Jun 2022, 14:00 Reply Quote 0
              • undefined
                zapta @brs
                last edited by 4 Jun 2022, 02:43

                In the past I used reflective bubble wrap roll like this one, when I wanted to print ABS on an open frame printer.

                https://www.amazon.com/US-Energy-Products-Reflective-Insulation/dp/B083HQFTSR

                undefined 1 Reply Last reply 4 Jun 2022, 04:41 Reply Quote 1
                • undefined
                  brs @zapta
                  last edited by 4 Jun 2022, 04:41

                  @zapta
                  I had looked at some of that bubble wrap but was concerned about flammability. The Car Hood Foam seems to be flame retardant. Does the bubble wrap sustain fire?

                  undefined undefined 2 Replies Last reply 4 Jun 2022, 07:34 Reply Quote 0
                  • undefined
                    deckingman @brs
                    last edited by 4 Jun 2022, 07:34

                    @brs The stuff you are looking at is generically called "Multi Foil Insulation" here in the UK. So you might find something suitable at a better price if you use that as a search term.

                    Ian
                    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • undefined
                      bubblevisor
                      last edited by 4 Jun 2022, 13:57

                      Yes, providing you do a good job having a low leakage box, have some convection/circulation fan and keep the volume down, 74degrees C is achievable with the rubber foam insulation I describe.insul1.jpg insul2.jpg

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • undefined
                        bubblevisor @brs
                        last edited by 4 Jun 2022, 14:00

                        @brs Where are you based. I have quite a lot in stock I could share.

                        undefined 1 Reply Last reply 5 Jun 2022, 21:35 Reply Quote 0
                        • undefined
                          zapta @brs
                          last edited by 5 Jun 2022, 06:10

                          @brs said in What Insulation do you use?:

                          @zapta
                          I had looked at some of that bubble wrap but was concerned about flammability. The Car Hood Foam seems to be flame retardant. Does the bubble wrap sustain fire?

                          I don't know. I don't have a piece at the moment, otherwise I would test it.

                          undefined 1 Reply Last reply 5 Jun 2022, 20:19 Reply Quote 0
                          • undefined
                            bubblevisor @zapta
                            last edited by 5 Jun 2022, 20:19

                            @zapta I just tried burning it with a blow torch. It extinguishes within 1-2seconds once the torch flame is off which seems good to me. However, it would be good to know how to test this against standards such as UL94 or equivalent. Perhaps someone can advise?

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • undefined
                              brs @bubblevisor
                              last edited by 5 Jun 2022, 21:35

                              @bubblevisor said in What Insulation do you use?:

                              @brs Where are you based. I have quite a lot in stock I could share.

                              Washington State but never mind as I ordered some on Friday evening, it arrived early Saturday morning and it was installed Saturday afternoon. Got the 5mm foam and I also put a torch to a bit of it and found that it did not sustain flame once the torch was removed. Thanks though.

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • undefined
                                zapta
                                last edited by 6 Jun 2022, 19:21

                                @bubblevisor, if yo will buy from a repuatable vendor or manufacturer, you may find safety information you can trust. E.g. https://www.mcmaster.com/insulation/insulation-type~sheet-strip/heat-reflecting-air-bubble-duct-insulation-sheets/

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                7 out of 15
                                • First post
                                  7/15
                                  Last post
                                Unless otherwise noted, all forum content is licensed under CC-BY-SA