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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator @tfjield
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      @tfjield said in Intermittent WiFi Connection at Startup:

      There is a message that looks like an error that pops up before the "Network scan failed" messages, but it flashes by too fast and I can't read it. I'll either capture it in a video or log it via USB.

      If you want to check config.g for errors, send M98 P"config.g" in the gcode console in DWC and any messages that may have been missed during startup will come up in the console. I'm guessing a heater over powered warning maybe.

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      • tfjieldundefined
        tfjield @Phaedrux
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        @phaedrux
        I took a video of the PanelDue when starting up to capture that first error. It says

        "WiFi module started"
        "Error: WiFi module reported: Unexpected WiFi state 'Idle' when trying to connect to"
        "WiFi module is idle"
        " Error: WiFi module reported: no known networks found"
        "WiFi module is idle"
        "Error: WiFi module reported: network scan failed"

        And the last messages repeats until it finally gives up .

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        • tfjieldundefined
          tfjield @tfjield
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          @Phaedrux
          And after it was done booting, I entered the three commands via the console. The first time it successfully connected to the network. I rebooted a few times to get the failure again and tried it again. This second time it failed with the same series of errors. I repeated the commands and it connected to the network. I just repeated the commands again and got the errors, but then it connected at the end.
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          • tfjieldundefined
            tfjield @Exerqtor
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            @exerqtor
            What hardware do you use for your network? Mine is Unifi. I actually added another access point in my garage to make sure it wasn't a signal strength issue, but it didn't make a difference.

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            • Exerqtorundefined
              Exerqtor @tfjield
              last edited by Exerqtor

              @tfjield I'm on a Unifi network too, i've got a UAP-AC-PRO mounted in the ceiling two meters away from the printer with clear line of sight. Note that i had a Duet 2 Wifi v1.03 before, (upgraded to the Duet 3 Mini because i fried the CPU on the Duet2 😒) and it never had this problem even with one of the 3.3 fw's.

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              • MintyTreborundefined
                MintyTrebor @Exerqtor
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                @exerqtor I run Unifi AC Pro's too, and there are a couple of things I have found which improved connection stability for me with my printers and other home automation equipment (largely all ESP based wifi devices).

                1. Create a wifi network which operates in the 2.4gh band only - Many simpler wifi devices can have trouble with wifi access points that use the same network name on both 2.4 & 5Ghz bands.
                2. If you are running more than 1 Unifi AC Pro AP, then use the Unifi control software to force the printer to connect to the AP that is nearest/best signal. The automated processes that should manage this do not allways operate as expected.

                Other things to consider - even if your network configuration hasn't changed, the environment its operating in might have... eg An external wifi network may have switched channels, or a new one has been setup which is causing interference...It might be worth running the channel scanning tools available in the Unfi control software to see if anything has changed.

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                • tfjieldundefined
                  tfjield @MintyTrebor
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                  @mintytrebor
                  Good advice! In my case my 2.4 GHz network has a separate SSID just for that reason, iot devices often aren't smart enough to navigate a dual network.

                  I have had these issues with the Duet since day one. I added another AP to try to improve the situation, but it didn't help. And I recently scanned everything to make sure all was clear.

                  Seems a bit coincidental that both of us with problems are running Unifi... It's not THAT common. But could be a coincidence.

                  I really think there's either some kind of race condition. I thought it might be a voltage stabilization issue at startup, but since I get the same problems when I deactivate and reactivate the WiFi module, I don't think that makes sense.

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                  • tfjieldundefined
                    tfjield @Exerqtor
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                    @exerqtor
                    But the fact you didn't have problems with the Duet 2 suggests that it's not the network and something about the specific Duet board...

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                      When and where did you purchase the Duet 2 Wifi?

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                      • tfjieldundefined
                        tfjield @Phaedrux
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                        @phaedrux
                        It came with my Modix printer. I received it about 2 weeks ago. It was shipped with the other parts direct from China.

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          Do you have another spare access point to test with? It would be good to isolate the issue before we go through the trouble of warranty replacement incase that won't actually solve the issue.

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                          • tfjieldundefined
                            tfjield @Phaedrux
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                            @phaedrux
                            I do. It had the same problem with the AP in the house, so I thought maybe it needed a higher signal strength, so I put a new AP close to it. (The strength was good already, but I didn't want to be blasting everything else indoors if it needed more.) But I can crank up the indoor power temporarily and try connecting to that one again (different SSID's, so that's easy) to see if it makes a difference.

                            I can't do this until Monday, though. I'm sitting in a plane just about to take off! ☺️

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                            • oliofundefined
                              oliof @tfjield
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                              @tfjield is that still another Unifi AP, or some other make/model?

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                              • tfjieldundefined
                                tfjield @oliof
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                                @oliof It's Unifi. The current is model UAP, and the other one I can test is U6-LR.

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                                • tfjieldundefined
                                  tfjield @oliof
                                  last edited by tfjield

                                  @oliof @Phaedrux
                                  I may have found something. On a hunch, I decided to replace the SD card with a faster one, thinking that there might be some kind of race condition occurring during startup.

                                  The card that came with it is a SanDisk Edge 8 GB class 4. Here's a stock image of the card:
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                                  I replaced it with a SanDisk Ultra.

                                  With the original card it would boot and connect to WiFi no more than half the time. After replacing the card, it's connected 5 out of 5 reboots. I'll continue testing, but it seems much better!

                                  EDIT: This is on the same AP; I've only changed the card.

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                                  • Exerqtorundefined
                                    Exerqtor @tfjield
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                                    @tfjield Interesting, keep us updated on this please 😅

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                                    • tfjieldundefined
                                      tfjield @Exerqtor
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                                      @exerqtor
                                      With the new card I've rebooted about 18 times so far, and it's only failed twice. Looks like a significant improvement, but not 100%.

                                      To be completely sure it's not something else, I'll swap the old card back in later and see what happens.

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                                      • tfjieldundefined
                                        tfjield @tfjield
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                                        Well, it turns out that this was not the fix. As time went on, the number of times it would fail vs. the number of times that it would succeed has increased a lot. We're back to 50/50 or greater failure rate.

                                        To this day, once the WiFi is connected I have never lost connection.

                                        I suppose this could be a hardware problem, but it sure seems more like some kind of race condition. Is there anything I can do to help determine the root cause for the failure?

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                                          Can you snag a close up pic of the soldering on the wifi module?

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                                          • tfjieldundefined
                                            tfjield @Phaedrux
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                                            @phaedrux
                                            These aren't great... Is there something specific you're looking for? If so, I can try to highlight it better. And these were with a cell phone camera... If these aren't good enough, I can pull out the USB microscope.

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