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    • A Former User?
      A Former User @fcwilt
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      @fcwilt

      ; Configuration file for Duet 3 Mini 5+ (firmware version 3.3)
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Mon Jun 27 2022 12:50:38 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
      
      ; General preferences
      G90                                                ; send absolute coordinates...
      M83                                                ; ...but relative extruder moves
      M550 P"Frankenstein's Cinderella"                  ; set printer name
      
      ; Network
      M552 S1                                            ; enable network
      M586 P0 S1                                         ; enable HTTP
      M586 P1 S0                                         ; disable FTP
      M586 P2 S0                                         ; disable Telnet
      
      ; Drives
      M569 P0.0 D3 V0 S1                                       ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
      M569 P0.1 D3 V0 S0                                       ; physical drive 0.1 goes backwards
      M569 P0.2 D3 V0 S1                                       ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
      M569 P0.3 D3 V0 S1                                       ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
      M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3                           ; set drive mapping
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                            ; configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X100.000 Y100.00 Z4000.00 E420.00                 ; set steps per mm
      M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E120.00                ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z600.00 E1200.00            ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z200.00 E250.00               ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X600 Y600 Z600 E600                           ; set motor currents (mA)
      M84 S0                                             ; Disable motor idle current reduction
      
      ; Axis Limits
      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                                   ; set axis minima
      M208 X220 Y220 Z240 S0                             ; set axis maxima
      
      ; Endstops
      M574 X1 S1 P"!io5.in"                              ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on X via pin !^io5.in
      M574 Y1 S1 P"!io6.in"							   ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Y via pin !^io6.in
      M574 Z1 S1 P"!io2.in"							   ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Z via pin !^io2.in							   
      
      ; Z-Probe
      M950 S0 C"io3.out"                                 ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
      M558 P9 C"io3.in" H5 F120 T3600                    ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
      G31 P500 X15.875 Y0.625 Z2.5                       ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
      M557 X5:190 Y5:215 S10                             ; define mesh grid
      
      ; Heaters
      M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092       ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
      M950 H0 C"out0" T0                                 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
      M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
      M140 H0                                            ; map heated bed to heater 0
      M143 H0 S33                                        ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 33C
      M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092       ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
      M950 H1 C"out1" T1                                 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
      M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
      M143 H1 S100                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 100C
      
      ; Fans
      M950 F0 C"out3" Q500                               ; create fan 0 on pin out3 and set its frequency
      M106 P0 S0 H-1                                     ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
      M950 F1 C"out4" Q500                               ; create fan 1 on pin out4 and set its frequency
      M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                                  ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
      
      ; Tools
      M563 P0 S"optional" D0 H1 F0                       ; define tool 0
      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 0 axis offsets
      G10 P0 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      
      ; Custom settings are not defined
      
      ; Miscellaneous
      M501                                               ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
      M911 S21 R23 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
      
      
      
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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @A Former User
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        @mac said in I could use some help:

        @droftarts I'll try your suggestion, but Ian, if these motors are crap, I will immediately buy excellent motors to replace them if only you'll make a recommendation!

        I get my steppers from Stepperonline usually.

        All NEMA 17 steppers will be the same frame size but they can vary in length. Yours are listed as 38mm long whereas mine are 48mm.

        Only you can determine how much space you have to go beyond 38mm.

        I could not find any NEMA 17 38mm steppers at Stepperonline.

        Frederick

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @A Former User
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          @mac said in I could use some help:

          @fcwilt ahhh, from my reading of Ian's comment, the D3 V0 will quiet the motors, but it won't address the resistance issues. I need to get better motors. Can you please suggest something. I'll order on Amazon, and have them in by the weekend if I'm quick enough.

          It may well do more than quiet them, the noise is just a symptom.

          It actually may allow them to work as they should.

          Frederick

          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • A Former User?
            A Former User @fcwilt
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            @fcwilt you're not going to like this, but here goes:

            G1 H1 Y-10 F3600 would NOT move the bed. I tried twice, and I clicked multiple times each time.

            Then I changed H1 to H2.

            The command sent the bed back to the endstop 10 mm's at a time. When it was at -220 I looked to see what's what. There was another 10mm's to go, so I clicked on the send button. The bed went back that 10mm's, and depressed the endstop.

            Then I clicked on the Y+50 joy button at the far right of Home Y. Instead of going 50mm's, the bed went all the way to the front of the printer, and stopped without pounding on the adjustment cap.

            This machine has a mind of it's own. My apologies for such bad news.

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @A Former User
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              @mac said in I could use some help:

              @fcwilt you're not going to like this, but here goes:

              G1 H1 Y-10 F3600 would NOT move the bed. I tried twice, and I clicked multiple times each time.

              Then I changed H1 to H2.

              The command sent the bed back to the endstop 10 mm's at a time. When it was at -220 I looked to see what's what. There was another 10mm's to go, so I clicked on the send button. The bed went back that 10mm's, and depressed the endstop.

              Then I clicked on the Y+50 joy button at the far right of Home Y. Instead of going 50mm's, the bed went all the way to the front of the printer, and stopped without pounding on the adjustment cap.

              This machine has a mind of it's own. My apologies for such bad news.

              You did re-boot the printer after editing the config.g file?

              I have no idea why H2 would work and not H1. Perhaps because H2 is not checking for the endstop to be activated and H1 is.

              But you cannot use H2 to home, it has to be H1.

              Here is a set of steppers that might fit - they are 39mm instead of 38mm and their specs are much better in regards to resistance and inductance:

              https://www.amazon.com/STEPPERONLINE-Stepper-59-49oz-42x42x39mm-Connector/dp/B094CR3228/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=nema%2B17%2Bstepper%2Bmotor&qid=1656547436&sprefix=nema%2B17%2Bst%2Caps%2C83&sr=8-4&th=1

              How much longer then 38mm could you fit? The larger ones tend to have more power and better specs.

              Frederick

              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @A Former User
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                @mac said in I could use some help:

                @fcwilt you're not going to like this, but here goes:

                G1 H1 Y-10 F3600 would NOT move the bed. I tried twice, and I clicked multiple times each time.

                Then I changed H1 to H2.

                The command sent the bed back to the endstop 10 mm's at a time. When it was at -220 I looked to see what's what. There was another 10mm's to go, so I clicked on the send button. The bed went back that 10mm's, and depressed the endstop.

                Then I clicked on the Y+50 joy button at the far right of Home Y. Instead of going 50mm's, the bed went all the way to the front of the printer, and stopped without pounding on the adjustment cap.

                This machine has a mind of it's own. My apologies for such bad news.

                Here is a thought. Did you run M119 to check the endstop status first?

                If the Y endstop were already activated then the G1 H1 would not move.

                Frederick

                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  A Former User @fcwilt
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                  @fcwilt these motors are 42 X 42 X 37. The screw spacing is 33. I’m going to need the same size motors to fit this printer. But I want to get motors that are up to Duet’s abilities. My budget is up to a Hundred dollars for 4 motors.

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                  • A Former User?
                    A Former User @fcwilt
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                    @fcwilt my master taught me to Always M119 first.

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                      A Former User @A Former User
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                      @fcwilt @droftarts what do you think of this motor?

                      https://www.mybotonline.com/download/17HS15-1704S.pdf

                      https://www.mybotonline.com/download/17HS15-1704S_Torque_Curve.pdf

                      https://www.mybotonline.com/nema-17-bipolar-18deg-44ncm-6232-ozin-17a-42x42x375mm-4-wires-w-1m-cable-full-d-cut-shaft

                      Mac

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @A Former User
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                        @mac said in I could use some help:

                        @fcwilt my master taught me to Always M119 first.

                        And what did it report?

                        Inquiring minds want to know! 😉

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @A Former User
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                          @mac said in I could use some help:

                          @fcwilt these motors are 42 X 42 X 37. The screw spacing is 33. I’m going to need the same size motors to fit this printer. But I want to get motors that are up to Duet’s abilities. My budget is up to a Hundred dollars for 4 motors.

                          So even the extra 2mm of the ones I linked to is too much?

                          Drat.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @A Former User
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                            @mac said in I could use some help:

                            @fcwilt @droftarts what do you think of this motor?

                            https://www.mybotonline.com/download/17HS15-1704S.pdf

                            https://www.mybotonline.com/download/17HS15-1704S_Torque_Curve.pdf

                            https://www.mybotonline.com/nema-17-bipolar-18deg-44ncm-6232-ozin-17a-42x42x375mm-4-wires-w-1m-cable-full-d-cut-shaft

                            Mac

                            Well the specs are better in several ways.

                            And the price is right.

                            How long to get them?

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              A Former User @fcwilt
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                              @fcwilt I’m trying to get them from stepper online

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                                A Former User @A Former User
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                                @fcwilt @droftarts I’d like to know what you think of the motor specs in the picture below. Would this motor play nice with the Duet3D Mini 5+? Would it be better than the motors in the XVico? It matches up perfectly with those motors.

                                2CE780B8-39D4-4B8C-95F3-B58A095F8584.jpeg

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                                  A Former User @A Former User
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                                  @droftarts @fcwilt

                                  This picture identifies the phasing, and how the wires are coded.

                                  AE1CD6AD-DCBD-4F4C-ACB2-F9FEDB78A799.jpeg

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @A Former User
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                                    @mac

                                    No, those don't look good at all.

                                    You really cannot fit the 39mm ones I linked to?

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      A Former User @fcwilt
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                                      @fcwilt the 42X39 for the X-motor works. It works for the Extruder also, and it will work for the Y-motor, but it will be super close to the bed’s back right adjustment wheel. The problem is the Z-motor. I’m going to have to raise the Z-screw 2mm’s. I’m just not looking forwards to that. But okay, here goes. I’ll order the motors right now.

                                      Mac

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                                        A Former User @fcwilt
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                                        @fcwilt end of July.

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                                          A Former User @A Former User
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                                          @fcwilt how am I going to deal with those Amazon motors being 24volts? Am I going to have to buy a 24 volt power supply?

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                                            @fcwilt AE2A97AA-751E-4495-99FE-33480773900B.png

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