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    • Norderundefined
      Norder @TRATOON
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      @tratoon
      At first glance it looks better, but to judge it more precisely you would have to be able to see the map from the side.

      Before the next leveling, check the rollers of the print head and adjust them very precisely so that the print head has no play but does not run heavily.
      You should also check all the screws and the belt tension.

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      Auf den ersten Blick sieht es schon besser aus, aber um es genauer zu beurteilen müsste man die Map schräg von der Seite sehen können.

      Kontrolliere vor dem nächsten Leveln mal die Rollen vom Druckkopf und stelle diese sehr genau ein so dass der Druckkopf keinerlei Spiel hat aber auch nicht schwer läuft.
      Auch alle Schrauben solltest Du mal prüfen und auch die Riemenspannung.

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      • TRATOONundefined
        TRATOON @Norder
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        @günter-jibben I just got this height map after adjusting on of the X-Axis eccentric nuts:
        f8896eb1-85e0-40b5-b113-c8007f175ef4-image.png Along with a substantial Z-Offset Message

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        • infiniteloopundefined
          infiniteloop @Norder
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          @günter-jibben said in Prints are warping:

          I think 400 measuring points (With a print bed size of 350x350mm) is absolute overkill

          That depends: to verify the surface of your print bed, it's fine, but I agree that it consumes way too much time if you create a new mesh frequently, e.g. from your start.g.

          Gruß von der Küste

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          • Norderundefined
            Norder @TRATOON
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            @tratoon
            Found a bug I would say.
            Bravo 👏

            Have a look at the linked thread, where I determine the Z offset with macros.
            I think then your printer will be a bit more precise and the manual leveling is more accurate and also more fun.

            If you have decided to use the macro method, please send us some screenshots and tell us what you think of it.

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            Fehler gefunden würde ich mal sagen.
            Bravo 👏

            Guck Dir den verlinkten Thread gerne mal an, dort wo ich den Z-Offset mit Macros ermittle.
            Ich denke dann wird Dein Drucker noch etwas präziser werden und das manuelle leveln ist genauer und macht auch mehr Spaß.

            Schick gerne mal ein paar Screenshots falls Du Dich entschieden hast die Macro-Methode zu nehmen und erzähle was Du davon hältst.

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            • TRATOONundefined
              TRATOON @Norder
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              @günter-jibben I do MBL by sending G32 and defining where my adjusting screws are in Bed.g

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              • infiniteloopundefined
                infiniteloop @TRATOON
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                @tratoon said in Prints are warping:

                I just got this height map after adjusting on of the X-Axis eccentric nuts

                That looks much better. If you now level your bed more precisely, you're done.

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                • TRATOONundefined
                  TRATOON @Norder
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                  @günter-jibben And by maco method, you refer to the Post you linked in one of your previous posts, right?

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                  • TRATOONundefined
                    TRATOON @TRATOON
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                    And the macro method is used to level the bed right?

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                    • Norderundefined
                      Norder @infiniteloop
                      last edited by Norder

                      @infiniteloop said in Prints are warping:

                      @günter-jibben said in Prints are warping:

                      I think 400 measuring points (With a print bed size of 350x350mm) is absolute overkill

                      That depends: to verify the surface of your print bed, it's fine, but I agree that it consumes way too much time if you create a new mesh frequently, e.g. from your start.g.

                      Gruß von der Küste

                      I agree.
                      It's too much for everyday use, but to find out exactly how my record looks, especially if you plan to grind the record to see where you can grind more and where not... then I would also go to more measuring points to tend.

                      Greetings back from the North Sea coast 🦐

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                      Sehe ich auch so.
                      Für den Alltag ist es zu viel, aber um mal zu erfahren wie genau meine Platte aussieht, besonders wenn man vor hat die Platte zu schleifen, um zu erkennen wo man mehr schleifen darf und wo nicht... dann würde ich auch zu mehr Messpunkten tendieren.

                      Grüße zurück von der Nordseeküste 🦐

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                      • TRATOONundefined
                        TRATOON @TRATOON
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                        Just cleaned the X and Y wheels here is the result:

                        15f3d5eb-2fe0-4318-9bb5-b11ebbcb97e7-image.png

                        Will use G32 to level bed and then set Z offset.

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                        • infiniteloopundefined
                          infiniteloop @Norder
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                          @günter-jibben said in Prints are warping:

                          It's too much for everyday use

                          Right.

                          Greetings back from the North Sea coast

                          Natürlich Nordseeküste - es kann nur eine geben😁

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                          • Norderundefined
                            Norder @TRATOON
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                            @tratoon said in Prints are warping:

                            @günter-jibben And by maco method, you refer to the Post you linked in one of your previous posts, right?

                            Yes, exactly.
                            Read it to decide if it's something for you.
                            At least I will no longer manually adjust my print bed with a sheet of paper or a spring steel sheet.
                            I only need a spring steel sheet (feeler gauge) once to determine the Z offset, and then never again... unless I change the nozzle. 😁

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                            Ja, genau.
                            Lese es Dir durch um zu entscheiden ob es etwas für Dich ist.
                            Ich zumindest werde mein Druckbett nicht mehr mit einem Blatt Papier oder einem Federstahlblech manuell einstellen.
                            Ein Federstahlblech (Fühlerlehre) brauche ich nur einmal um den Z-Offset zu ermitteln, danach nie wieder... außer ich wechsel die Düse. 😁

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                            • Norderundefined
                              Norder @infiniteloop
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                              @infiniteloop said in Prints are warping:

                              @günter-jibben said in Prints are warping:

                              It's too much for everyday use

                              Right.

                              Greetings back from the North Sea coast

                              Natürlich Nordseeküste - es kann nur eine geben😁

                              Hehee 👍 ... Ich wohne in Norden, und hier ist es heute brütend heiß. 😰

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                              • Norderundefined
                                Norder @TRATOON
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                                @tratoon said in Prints are warping:

                                Just cleaned the X and Y wheels here is the result:

                                15f3d5eb-2fe0-4318-9bb5-b11ebbcb97e7-image.png

                                Will use G32 to level bed and then set Z offset.

                                This is how you can work 👍

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                                • TRATOONundefined
                                  TRATOON @Norder
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                                  @günter-jibben What is the most definitive way to find the Z-Offset

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                                  • infiniteloopundefined
                                    infiniteloop @Norder
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                                    @günter-jibben said in Prints are warping:

                                    Ich wohne in Norden, und hier ist es heute brütend heiß.

                                    Ich auch, aber unter meiner Reetmütze bleibt es schön kühl 😎

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                                    • TRATOONundefined
                                      TRATOON @infiniteloop
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                                      @infiniteloop, @Günter-Jibben I keep getting the Z-Datum error, and I keep setting Z=0 to where a 0.04mm gauge will fit in, but it still gives me the error

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                                      • TRATOONundefined
                                        TRATOON @TRATOON
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                                        I keep setting G92 Z0, but whenever the printer finishes probing or I restart the printer, it goes back to old height

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                                        • TRATOONundefined
                                          TRATOON @TRATOON
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                                          @Günter-Jibben @infiniteloop Actual Z0 for me is -1.35 from where it is now. I set it as Z=0 using G92 Z0, but it keeps going back to the original position, after probing and after restarting the printer.

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                                          • engikeneerundefined
                                            engikeneer @TRATOON
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                                            @tratoon if you are using a probe, you shouldn't be using G92.

                                            Set the z offset of your probe correctly in G31 in config.g. your z axis will be set to this value when the probe triggers

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