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    • jason0607undefined
      jason0607 @jason0607
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      @jason0607 Yes they are connected correctly

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      • Rushmere3Dundefined
        Rushmere3D @jason0607
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        @jason0607 I would say these settings need, tweaking.

        M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
        M203 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X200.00 Y200.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
        

        Something like this maybe? BUT you need to adjust based on your machine, these are based on one of my printers.

        M566 X300.00 Y300.00 Z60.00 E420.00           	; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
        M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z360.00 E1500.00   	; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z300.00 E10000.00     	; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
        

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        • Rushmere3Dundefined
          Rushmere3D
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          Would also be a good idea to share the results of m122 and M98 P"config.g" please?

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          • jason0607undefined
            jason0607 @Rushmere3D
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            @rushmere3d
            === Diagnostics ===
            RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 Mini 5+ version 3.4.1 (2022-06-01 21:06:56) running on Duet 3 Mini5plus Ethernet (standalone mode)
            Board ID: 0KSJD-0296U-D65J0-40KMS-K803Z-H4BUF
            Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (14 max)
            === RTOS ===
            Static ram: 103684
            Dynamic ram: 104352 of which 100 recycled
            Never used RAM 33504, free system stack 182 words
            Tasks: NETWORK(ready,25.6%,244) ETHERNET(notifyWait,0.2%,576) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,374) Move(notifyWait,0.0%,290) CanReceiv(notifyWait,0.0%,942) CanSender(notifyWait,0.0%,372) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,339) TMC(notifyWait,0.7%,81) MAIN(running,71.8%,510) IDLE(ready,1.0%,29) AIN(delaying,0.8%,264), total 100.0%
            Owned mutexes:
            === Platform ===
            Last reset 00:00:56 ago, cause: software
            Last software reset at 2022-08-16 09:30, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 33520, slot 1
            Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00000000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
            Error status: 0x00
            MCU revision 3, ADC conversions started 56285, completed 56285, timed out 0, errs 0
            Step timer max interval 1487
            MCU temperature: min 23.9, current 24.8, max 24.8
            Supply voltage: min 24.0, current 24.0, max 24.0, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
            Heap OK, handles allocated/used 0/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 0/0/0, gc cycles 0
            Events: 2 queued, 2 completed
            Driver 0: standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 21, reads 2937, writes 11, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
            Driver 1: standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 27, reads 2935, writes 13, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
            Driver 2: standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 27, reads 2934, writes 13, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
            Driver 3: standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 21, reads 2936, writes 11, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
            Driver 4: standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 19, reads 2939, writes 9, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
            Driver 5: not present
            Driver 6: not present
            Date/time: 2022-08-16 09:31:34
            Cache data hit count 97077235
            Slowest loop: 299.88ms; fastest: 0.13ms
            === Storage ===
            Free file entries: 10
            SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 22.5MBytes/sec
            SD card longest read time 3.4ms, write time 11.7ms, max retries 0
            === Move ===
            DMs created 83, segments created 3, maxWait 40644ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
            === MainDDARing ===
            Scheduled moves 6, completed 6, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 1], CDDA state -1
            === AuxDDARing ===
            Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
            === Heat ===
            Bed heaters 0 -1 -1 -1, chamber heaters -1 -1 -1 -1, ordering errs 0
            === GCodes ===
            Segments left: 0
            Movement lock held by null
            HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
            Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
            File is idle in state(s) 0
            USB is idle in state(s) 0
            Aux is idle in state(s) 0
            Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
            Queue is idle in state(s) 0
            LCD is idle in state(s) 0
            SBC is idle in state(s) 0
            Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
            Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
            Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
            Code queue is empty
            === CAN ===
            Messages queued 282, received 0, lost 0, boc 0
            Longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, peak Tx sync delay 0, free buffers 18 (min 18), ts 282/0/0
            Tx timeouts 0,0,281,0,0,0 last cancelled message type 30 dest 127
            === Network ===
            Slowest loop: 101.62ms; fastest: 0.03ms
            Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
            HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

            • Ethernet -
              State: active
              Error counts: 0 0 0 0 0
              Socket states: 5 2 2 2 2 0 0 0
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            • jason0607undefined
              jason0607 @Rushmere3D
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              @rushmere3d Error: M98: control character in string

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              • Rushmere3Dundefined
                Rushmere3D @jason0607
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                @jason0607

                M98 P"config.g"
                

                Didn't work?

                I'm out of ideas if your still having issues I'm sorry to say.

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                • jason0607undefined
                  jason0607 @Rushmere3D
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                  @Rushmere3D What would be the settings for my motor?

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                  • jason0607undefined
                    jason0607 @Rushmere3D
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                    @rushmere3d M98 P"config.g"
                    HTTP is enabled on port 80
                    FTP is disabled
                    TELNET is disabled
                    Error: Failed to initialise thermocouple: bad response from sensor
                    Warning: Sensor number 0 has not been defined

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                    • Rushmere3Dundefined
                      Rushmere3D @jason0607
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                      @jason0607 You mean in relation to the settings I posted? It's totally dependent on your setup, what printer is it?

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                      • jason0607undefined
                        jason0607 @Rushmere3D
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                        @rushmere3d I only have a Duet3Mini5+ Ethernet Board and the steppermotor 103-H5210-4240 / NEMA17 / Flansch 42mm / 1A / 51 Ncm

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                        • Rushmere3Dundefined
                          Rushmere3D @jason0607
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                          @jason0607 So are you saying this is just setup on a bench? It's not an actual printer?

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                          • jason0607undefined
                            jason0607 @Rushmere3D
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                            @rushmere3d Yes

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                            • Rushmere3Dundefined
                              Rushmere3D @jason0607
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                              @jason0607 I can't really help then, I'm not sure I understand what issue you are having.

                              What are you trying to achieve? What command are you sending to make the motor move?

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                              • droftartsundefined
                                droftarts administrators @jason0607
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                                @jason0607 Your motors are quite high resistance at 4.8ohms and high inductance at 9.5mH. It may not be possible to drive them very fast, though they should have a good amount of torque. See https://docs.duet3d.com/User_manual/Connecting_hardware/Motors_choosing#inductance

                                The high resistance/inductance may be contributing to 'coil whine', which is what I expect you mean by your motor 'crying'. Do they do this all the time, when moving and when stationary, once powered up? Does the movement seem smooth when it moves? Are you just testing one axis, if so which, or are they all doing it?

                                The drivers on the Mini 5+ can run in stealthChop mode, as opposed to spreadCycle. stealthChop is a quiet mode of operation for stepper motors at standstill and at low velocities, while spreadCycle will give better performance in medium to high velocity range for motors. Send M569 P0.0 to show how the X axis is set. To run in stealthchop all the time, change the M569 commands in config.g to:

                                M569 P0.0 S1 D3 V0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                                M569 P0.1 S1 D3 V0 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                                M569 P0.2 S1 D3 V0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                                M569 P0.3 S1 D3 V0 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                                

                                Ian

                                Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                • jason0607undefined
                                  jason0607
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                                  @droftarts
                                  What are normal values? I can only move my stepper motor up to about 15mm/s.

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                                  • droftartsundefined
                                    droftarts administrators @jason0607
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                                    @jason0607 In the config.g you posted earlier, you have:

                                    M203 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)

                                    1000mm/min = 16.666mm/s. Try increasing the M203 values of X and Y. 6000mm/min = 100mm/s, 12000mm/min = 200mm/s etc.

                                    Did you manage to resolve the stepper motor whine/crying?

                                    Ian

                                    Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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