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    • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
      jumpedwithbothfeet @Jered
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      @jered I am just going through a similar thing as you, using a bowden extruder to feed a direct drive extruder, here is a copy of my config hope it helps 🙂

      config 1.g

      6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
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        Oh I see what you mean, the bowden extruders will feel the direct drive extruder?

        Then it would be as jumpedwithbothfeet shows in his config for the tool setup. Each tool would have a combination of the two drives, the direct drive, and the bowden.

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        • Jeredundefined
          Jered @Phaedrux
          last edited by

          Sounds good. I will have a look at this when I get a chance. Thanks

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          • Jeredundefined
            Jered @Jered
            last edited by

            Ok, I have edited my config to what I think will work. Would you guys mind having a look?

            config.g

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
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              Yes that seems right. Have you tested the extruder movement yet?

              The esteps will need to be very accurate to keep them moving the same amount.

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              • Jeredundefined
                Jered @Phaedrux
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                I have not tested it yet as I have not yet selected a direct drive hotend. Maybe you have an idea of what a good choice for this would be. Currently, I am just running my machine bowden style with a non metal hotend. When I make the move to an all metal hotend, I know I will need a direct drive to help pull the filament out of the nozzle.

                I will be careful to tune the motors to work together.

                Below is a link to one of my vids on youtube so you can see what I am doing.

                Video to my printer

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                • deckingmanundefined
                  deckingman @Jered
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                  @jered There is one more thing you need to do in config.g and that is set the mixing ratio for each tool using M567 and you need to set it to 1:1. - i.e use M567 Pn E1.00:1.00 (where n is the tool number).

                  At least I'm almost certain you need to but it depends what the default behaviour is. I think it would default to being a 2 in 1 out hot end so without any M567 command, I think it will use 50% of each extruder so the sum of the two would equal the specified feed rate in any G1 En command. For your push-pull arrangement you need to use 100% of both extruders.

                  Regardless of what the default behaviour might be, using M567 Pn 1.00:1.00 would be my advice - just in case there is a change to the default behaviour at some time in the future.

                  Ian
                  https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                  https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @deckingman
                    last edited by

                    @deckingman Good point. I assumed the default was 1:1. Best not to assume.

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                    • deckingmanundefined
                      deckingman @Phaedrux
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                      @phaedrux said in How to use multiple tools plus designated direct drive:

                      @deckingman Good point. I assumed the default was 1:1. Best not to assume.

                      As you say, best not to assume. But on the basis that 2 in 1 out hot ends are more common than push-pull, and on the basis that 0.5:0.5 would be safer in terms of potential to strip filament, then my money would go on that as the default.

                      Ian
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                      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                      • Jeredundefined
                        Jered @deckingman
                        last edited by

                        I see,
                        I will add the mixing ratio to each tool. 1:1 is what I need.

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                        • Jeredundefined
                          Jered @Jered
                          last edited by

                          I think I've got this added correctly.

                          config.g

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