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    • fmaundefined
      fma
      last edited by

      Why does the sensor only work on the Duet, not the Duex? Is it because you re-configure inputs as analog, which is not possible on Duex?

      Frédéric

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
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        It's because the pins on the DueX have too much latency, because they are read via a I2C I/O expander.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • fmaundefined
          fma
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          I see.

          Frédéric

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          • AS-3D Druckundefined
            AS-3D Druck
            last edited by

            Looks great. 🙂
            But a Filament Diameter Sensor for 1.75mm and 2.85mm/3mm would be awesome. 😉

            I know this type of Sensor is (i belive) easyer to get in to everything. 🙂

            Best regards
            AS-3D Druck / Andre

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            • DjDemonDundefined
              DjDemonD
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              I cannot see why this sensor can't-do 3mm, surely its just a case of reorientating the idler so that it sits on the other side of the elastic cam pieces supporting it, so there is enough space for 3mm filament to be inserted.

              Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
              www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
              PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                T3P3Tony administrators
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                @DjDemonD:

                I cannot see why this sensor can't-do 3mm, surely its just a case of reorientating the idler so that it sits on the other side of the elastic cam pieces supporting it, so there is enough space for 3mm filament to be inserted.

                Yes I have tested the current enclosure with 3mm as well as 1.75mm filament. the elastic springs can be rotated so there is a larger gap.

                A filament diameter sensor is a whole different issue though. Just thinking about the elasticity in the system and the delay makes my head hurt.

                www.duet3d.com

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                • DjDemonDundefined
                  DjDemonD
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                  It's a hard nut to crack, but a genuinely auto-calibrating extruder would give even the Prusa team pause for thought.

                  Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                  www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                  PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                  • sungod3kundefined
                    sungod3k
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                    Is this only intended for run out and stall detection or could I monitor the actual vs commanded extrusion ratio.

                    Im printing often at the upper limits of what the extruder is willing to push through, so a tool that could confirm and compensate this:
                    http://www.extrudable.me/2013/04/18/exploring-extrusion-variability-and-limits/ would be great.

                    http://www.42dimensions.de/
                    https://printnewworlds.blogspot.com/

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                    • T3P3Tonyundefined
                      T3P3Tony administrators
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                      The firmware detects the difference between the commanded extrusion and the amount filament moves (taking into account retraction) any then raises an error and pauses the print if that difference grows out of tolerance.

                      www.duet3d.com

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
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                        @DjDemonD:

                        It's a hard nut to crack, but a genuinely auto-calibrating extruder would give even the Prusa team pause for thought.

                        You would need to calibrate the filament monitor first, so it's chicken and egg. Unless the filament monitor was so accurately made that it needed no calibration.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • DjDemonDundefined
                          DjDemonD
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                          I agree that the duet filament monitor it isn't going to be the route to achieving this but the general idea of an extruder which always extrudes the right amount of material is definitely a concept worth trying to realise. Otherwise, consumer 3d printers will have to use filament in cartridges, which has a factory determined tolerance for width, roundness etc…

                          Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                          www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                          PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                          • T3P3Tonyundefined
                            T3P3Tony administrators
                            last edited by

                            Good quality filament already has that.

                            www.duet3d.com

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                            • Biggsisundefined
                              Biggsis
                              last edited by

                              Hi,

                              is the magnet filament sensor still in beta testing? If so, is it possible to still participate? If not, then how to purchase the filament monitor? Since I have the "filament stuck" problem with a bunch of our printers, I would be very much interested in testing or using it. Thanks.

                              Hypercube Evolution User Group : https://www.facebook.com/groups/Hypercubeevolution/
                              Kossel Delta XL / XXL User Group : [https://www.facebook.com/groups/KosselXXL/]

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                              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                T3P3Tony administrators @Biggsis
                                last edited by

                                @biggsis Its had a redesign and the new design prototypes are on order. I will make a new thread about it once we have an estimated date to release it.

                                www.duet3d.com

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