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    • sonderzugundefined
      sonderzug @jens55
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      @jens55 I've stumbled upon the CR-Touch by creality which seems to be a beefed up "upgrade-clone" of the BL-Touch. It does make a more sturdy impression with the metal pin. There seems to be some confusion as to how exactly it needs to be connected, case in point I've actually fried one before trying to hook it up to the duet (2). However this shouldn't hold you back, it still looks like a promising package to me. It does seem to be a tad more accurate than the BL-Touch too.

      https://the3dprinterbee.com/de/cr-touch-vs-bl-touch/

      best, Niklas

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      • GeneRisiundefined
        GeneRisi @jens55
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        @jens55 "For what it's worth" , have you made sure that the probe is perpendicular (normal) to the bed? Any binding of the pin could cause the reading to differ (I think). Also, try turning the bed off while probing just to see if it makes any difference.
        The BLtouch creator (I can't think of her name right now) originally used a metal pin. I think she found that a self lubricated plastic pin was both more accurate and self-sacrificial (and cheaper to the end user) if there was a catastrophic probe failure.

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        • Adamfilipundefined
          Adamfilip @GeneRisi
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          @GeneRisi I prefer the Euclid Probe setup. a bit more finicky to setup at first with Macros. but I like it better. I have ripped off two BLtouch so far..

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          • jens55undefined
            jens55 @Adamfilip
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            @Adamfilip, thank you for mentioning the Euclid probe. I had forgotten they existed. The Euclid does indeed sound like it's ticking all the boxes for desired features.
            I am curious if anyone has an example of how to use the Euclid on a Creality CR10 bed slinger printer?

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            • jens55undefined
              jens55 @GeneRisi
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              @GeneRisi, thank you for mentioning the probe mounting position - I will verify that.

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              • jens55undefined
                jens55
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                I had a good look-see to figure out how the Euclid probe could be mounted on a CR10 bed slinger and unfortunately I don't see a way for doing it. The dock would need to be on the cross arm which means I can't lift the head relative to the dock which means the probe can't be docked - it always stays on the printhead.
                On the bright side, I think I have found my (very strange) issue with inconsistencies. It turns out that the trigger point of the BLtouch was VERY close to where the nozzle would touch the bed. In some positions the nozzle did actually touch the bed and it deflected the carriage causing all kinds of havoc with measurements but visually there was no indication anything was wrong. I am testing the printer with a slightly lowered BLtouch (meaning it will trigger a touch earlier)

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                • jens55undefined
                  jens55
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                  My apologies for not mentioning that I was working with a Creality CR10 right from the beginning.

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                  • jens55undefined
                    jens55 @jens55
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                    I am happy to report that not only did the 441 point mesh bed generate without a hitch but it also did that with a tighter "S" specification of 0.01 in my M558 command. The problem clearly was that my BLtouch was ever so slightly too high which caused the nozzle to touch the print bed in some areas of the build plate.

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                    • GeneRisiundefined
                      GeneRisi @jens55
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                      @jens55 👍

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                      • sinned6915undefined
                        sinned6915 @jens55
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                        @jens55 Euclid has sucessfully installed on Ender3's with auto deploy and stow.
                        You can always simplify and nad deply.

                        disclaimer: I am the one behind Euclid probe.

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