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    • oliofundefined
      oliof
      last edited by

      Hi,
      The 1LC format is nice to mount on a Hemera, but people use other extrusion systems as well ...

      it would be great to see other toolboard form factors like the pancake board to fit on the back of one of the currently popular mini extruders with round nema14s ... sadly I lack the time and skills to adopt the 1LC toolboard myself, but if anyone feels inspired, let me know (-:

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      PS: Yes, I know, chip shortage makes this hard.

      <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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      • sigourosandreasundefined
        sigourosandreas
        last edited by

        Very nice project for those who knows electronics.
        I am already using a 3 tool tolchanger and I am interested in upgrading it from duet2 to duet3 electronics.
        If it was possible to make such a toolboard I would buy them and do the upgrade yesterday.

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        • oliofundefined
          oliof @sigourosandreas
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          @sigourosandreas yeah, similar, if that existed, I'd upgrade my IDEX yesterday ...

          <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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          • PCRundefined
            PCR @oliof
            last edited by

            @oliof as I said. Design is easy... Chips not.

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            • rjenkinsgbundefined
              rjenkinsgb @oliof
              last edited by rjenkinsgb

              @oliof said in toolboard to match nema14 motors:

              it would be great to see other toolboard form factors like the pancake board to fit on the back of one of the currently popular mini extruders with round nema14s

              I don't think it is physically possible to pack all the 1LC electronics in to that small space; the 1LC is rather tightly packed, and that is smaller still.

              However: What about a two-part design?

              Use the pancake adapter concept but duplicate the Duet Smart Effector machine side connectors, and have a dedicated tool board to link to either adapter (counting the smart effector as an adapter) with the same two multiway plugs?

              Or just a single easy-to-assemble multiway at the tool board end that can be wired as needed to either adapter board?

              I like the toolboard concept, but apparently the latest revision come with loose 2mm connectors rather than pre-made ones?
              I'd not inflict those one anyone by choice! Mine, happily, are V1.0 with screw terminals and pre-made connector tails.

              Robert J.

              Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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              • oliofundefined
                oliof @rjenkinsgb
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                @rjenkinsgb maybe not everything on the 1LC is needed ...

                <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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                • oliofundefined
                  oliof @oliof
                  last edited by

                  For closure, the MKSTHR36 2040 based toolboard fills this gap in the product line-up. I will be able to report how it works probably end of next week.

                  <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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                  • R4ffersundefined
                    R4ffers @oliof
                    last edited by

                    @oliof did this work ok.

                    Mb6hc + 3hc + 1lc on Voron V2.4, Mini 5+ exp 2+ on Vzbot 235 AWD, Duet 2 wifi on Ox CNC and Mini 5+ on Millennium Milo v1.5 mini mill.

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                    • oliofundefined
                      oliof @R4ffers
                      last edited by oliof

                      @R4ffers you will need to build your own version of the firmware, but it works. One thing to consider with the MKSTHR36 is that the heater output and fan0, as well as fan1 and fan 2, share a PWM channel, so they must have the same PWM frequency or one or the other won't work. Luckily I was able to just swap from fan0 to fan2 on my setup; but you could also just explicitly set the PWM frequency to be the same on each pair.

                      As a side note, as far as I was told, klipper does not have this issue because they aren't using hardware PWM, but since its easy to work around, I wouldn't say this behavior is a bug per se.

                      Edited to add: Since setting CAN addresses via Gcode does not work (yet) on the SB2040 based board, if you use multiple ones, you will need to set the address for each one in source code and then flash. This worked without a hitch on my IDEX printer using two toolheads (which is currently undergoing a revision of the print carriage for unrelated reasons).

                      <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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                      • Th0mpyundefined
                        Th0mpy @oliof
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                        @oliof Did you get the ADXL345 to work with input shaping?

                        Usually the team that scores the most points wins the game.

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                        • oliofundefined
                          oliof @Th0mpy
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                          @Th0mpy no, there is no ADXL support in mainline RRF, and I did not bother to switch to an STM board and use the fork that has ADXL support built in since I am using poorman's IS configuration on most systems (just set frequency to 43Hz and use ZVD) which gets me 90% of a fine tuned IS setup 90% of the time.

                          <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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                          • Th0mpyundefined
                            Th0mpy @oliof
                            last edited by

                            @oliof Unfortunate, but I understand. I ordered the 2040, two piece, for the Voron Stealthburner to play with. If I can get the 2040 working with the Duet 3, I was thinking about redoing the board to include the LIS3DH instead. It "should" be straightforward, but I'd like to first see the 2040 work.

                            Any pointers on compiling RRF for the 2040?

                            Usually the team that scores the most points wins the game.

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators @Th0mpy
                              last edited by

                              @Th0mpy the 3.5-dev branch of the Duet3Expansion project includes support for the RP2040.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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