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    • moth4017undefined
      moth4017 @Karim
      last edited by moth4017

      @Karim

      what are the setting you have for the sensor less homing?
      did you also use M201.1 as dc42 suggested?

      i did some checks on mine tonight , i still get a non home event on the first time, so im doing a double home on x and Y , as you say after the first time it seems to be ok .

      im about to swap my control board so i can try different drivers , im suspecting the tcm2209 and stall guard 4 , my next drivers will be stall guard 2 ,

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      • Karimundefined
        Karim @moth4017
        last edited by Karim

        @moth4017 Hey no I did try M201.1, I been working on this printer for two weeks now trying to get sensor-less homing to work properly . I have two duet 2 wifi with duex5 and they working flawlessly. I know what you are saying about homing, I have to home x and y separately then home all works it’s a hit or miss.

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        • moth4017undefined
          moth4017 @Karim
          last edited by moth4017

          @Karim hi, testing tonight , if i turn down the acceleration while homing it stall less, M201.1 X800 Y800 remember to put the values back after homing.

          i was at , M201.1 X1200 Y1200

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @Karim
            last edited by

            @Karim said in Duet 3 mini 5+ wifi sensorless homing - Help:

            It’s just the first power up and home all stalls on X axis

            Try using a G1 H2 move to move the motors a few mm away from the endstops at the start of homeall.g or at the start of homex.g and homey.g. That should clear the stall status.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            • moth4017undefined
              moth4017 @dc42
              last edited by moth4017

              @dc42 Hi, i tried doing the small move first this didnt work for me , it stalled the "first moved" but moved on the second time.

              ; homex.g
              echo "home x stelh chop mode"
              M569 P0.0										; Check status in console
              M569 P0.1										; Check status in console
              G91                                             ; relative positioning
              M569 P0.0 S1 D3 V10                             ; set to stealth chop
              M569 P0.1 S1 D3 V10								; set to stealth chop
              M915 P0.0 S10 F0 R1 H150                   		; Configure Z-Axis Stall Detection 
              M915 P0.1 S10 F0 R1 H150						; Configure Z-Axis Stall Detection 
              M201.1 X800 Y800 
              echo "stall detection setup"
              M17 X Y											; Check status in console
              G1 P140											;pause to allow the drivers to characterise the motor    
              G1 H1 X-0.2 F3000								; move a  little  for cal of sensorless homing / not stalled
              G1 H1 Y-0.2 F3000    							; move a  little  for cal of sensorless homing / not stalle							
              
              echo "lower motor current"
              M913 X30 Y30									; Lower motor current %
              G4 P150											; wait 150ms
              M574 X1 Y2 S3									; Configure Z-Axis stall detection homing
              M569 P0.0										; Check status in console
              M569 P0.1										; Check status in console
              		
              echo "home x"
              G1 H1 X-350 F6000
              G1 H2 X10 Y10
              G1 H1 X-350 F6000
              G1 H2 X10 Y10; Home Z-Axis actuators independently
              M569 P0.0										; Check status in console
              M569 P0.1										; Check status in console
              G90 											; absolute positioning
              ;G1 X150 F6000									; move to center of bed
              
              ;revert back 
              echo "after revert back"
              M915 P0.0 S128 F0 R1 H550                   		; Configure Z-Axis Stall Detection 
              M915 P0.1 S128 F0 R1 H550						; Configure Z-Axis Stall Detection 
              M913 X100  Y100									; Reset motor current %
              M569 P0.0 S1 D2									; reset motors back to spread cycle,
              M569 P0.1 S1 D2									; reset motors back to spread cycle,
              M569 P0.0										; Check status in console
              M569 P0.1										; Check status in console
              M201.1 X1200 Y1200 
              

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @moth4017
                last edited by dc42

                @moth4017 try a longer move such as 1mm and use H2 not H1 in those moves. It needs to be more than 1 full step, or more than 4 full steps if you are using the filtering option in M915.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • moth4017undefined
                  moth4017 @dc42
                  last edited by moth4017

                  @dc42 Hi tried the H2 and changing distance moved , 1mm = 10 full steps on my printer , but still have random stalls on the Y axis so far .

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @moth4017
                    last edited by dc42

                    @moth4017 said in Duet 3 mini 5+ wifi sensorless homing - Help:

                    but still have random stalls on the Y axis so far

                    Are they stalls right at the start of the homing move (i.e. immediately after your 1mm G1 H2 move), or stalls part way through the homing move? If they are right at the start then try lower M201.1 values e.g. X300 Y300.

                    Which firmware version are you using?

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • moth4017undefined
                      moth4017 @dc42
                      last edited by

                      @dc42 3.5.0 beta2. The stall is after the small movement

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                      • Karimundefined
                        Karim @moth4017
                        last edited by Karim

                        @moth4017 Mine stall at first homing, X would stall, but if you get X to home successfully. Home all work every time, but if printer is power off overnight in the morning you have to go through that procedure again.

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                        • moth4017undefined
                          moth4017 @dc42
                          last edited by

                          @dc42 Did some testing tonight setting M201.1 to x300 y300 seems to be working at the moment , ill keep an eye on it over the weekend

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                          • Karimundefined
                            Karim @moth4017
                            last edited by

                            @moth4017 Which printer do you have , This is a Voron 0.2 Corexy.

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                            • moth4017undefined
                              moth4017 @Karim
                              last edited by

                              @Karim core XY valkyrie
                              https://vkingprinter.com/project-valkyrie/

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators @moth4017
                                last edited by

                                @moth4017 said in Duet 3 mini 5+ wifi sensorless homing - Help:

                                @dc42 3.5.0 beta2. The stall is after the small movement

                                Try using M201.1 to reduce the acceleration during homing.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                • Karimundefined
                                  Karim @moth4017
                                  last edited by Karim

                                  @moth4017 Very nice Printer, I never heard of it.

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                                  • Karimundefined
                                    Karim @Karim
                                    last edited by Karim

                                    @Karim This is my X Axis homing, it's not stalling now .I will let you know if this is working.

                                    ====================
                                    ; homeX.g
                                    ;====================
                                    ; called to home the X axis
                                    
                                    M84 X
                                    M400						    ; Wait for current moves to finish
                                    M569 P0.1 D3 V10				; X -> B axis reduce V parameter so driver operates in stealthChop
                                    M569 P0.2 D3 V10				; Y -> A axis reduce V parameter so driver operates in stealthChop
                                    G4 P200						    ; Pause for 200ms to let StealthChop do some sh!t
                                    M17 X						    ; Energize Motors X Y
                                    M913 X20 Y20				    ; drop motor current to 20%
                                    G4 P200						    ; Pause for 200ms to let StealthChop do some sh!t
                                    M915 X S20 R0 F0 H200	        ; Sensitivity 9 [-64 --> 64], R - take no action, F - No filter, 200steps/sec
                                    M201.1 X250 Y250 
                                    G4 P200						    ; wait 200ms
                                    G91					            ; set relative
                                    
                                    M400                            ; Wait for moves to finish
                                    G1 H2 X-1 F3000                 ; Move X axis back a little bit to clear stall flag if it's triggered
                                    
                                    M400                            ; Wait for moves to finish
                                    G4 P200						    ; wait 200ms
                                    G1 H1 X350 F3500			    ; [ First Pass ] move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there
                                    M400
                                    
                                    G90						        ; absolute positioning
                                    M400						    ; Wait for current moves to finish
                                    M913 X100 Y100				    ; return current to 100%
                                    M569 P0.1 D2					; Take driver out of StealthChop Mode
                                    M569 P0.2 D2					; Take driver out of StealthChop Mode
                                    
                                    M201.1 X650 Y650
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                                    • moth4017undefined
                                      moth4017 @dc42
                                      last edited by moth4017

                                      @dc42

                                      I had a whole weekend without a stall for the first time ,

                                      Thanks everyone

                                      ;homey.g
                                      												
                                      echo "Home Y"
                                      M569 P0.0										; check status in console Y
                                      M569 P0.1										; check status in console X
                                      G91												; Relative positioning
                                      M569 P0.0 S1 D3 V10                             ; set to stelth chop
                                      M569 P0.1 S1 D3 V10								; set to stelth chop
                                      M915 P0.0 S10 F0 R1 H200						; Configure y-Axis Stall Detection
                                      M915 P0.1 S10 F0 R1 H200                    	; Configure x-Axis Stall Detection
                                      M201.1 X300 Y300 
                                      echo "stall detection setup"
                                      M17 X Y	
                                      G1 P140
                                      
                                      G1 H2 X-1 F3000                               ; move a  little  for cal of sensorless homing / not stalled
                                      G1 H2 Y-1 F3000    							; move a  little  for cal of sensorless homing / not stalled
                                      
                                      echo "lower motor current"
                                      M913 X60 Y60									; Lower motor current %
                                      G4 P150
                                      M574 X1 Y2 S3                           		; Configure Z-Axis stall detection homing
                                      M569 P0.0										; check status in console
                                      M569 P0.1										; check status in console
                                      
                                      echo "Home Y"
                                      G1 H1 Y350 F6000
                                      G1 H2 X-10 Y10
                                      G1 H1 Y350 F6000                       			; Home Z-Axis actuators independently											
                                      M569 P0.0										; check status in console
                                      M569 P0.1										; check status in console
                                      G90 											; absolute positioning
                                      G1 Y150 F6000									; move to center of bed		
                                      
                                      ;revert back 
                                      echo "after revert  back"
                                      M915 P0.0 S128 F0 R1 H550						; Configure x-Axis Stall Detection
                                      M915 P0.1 S128 F0 R1 H550                    	; Configure x-Axis Stall Detection
                                      M913 X100  Y100                               	; Reset motor current
                                      M569 P0.0 S1 D2                                 ; reset motors back to spread cycle,
                                      M569 P0.1 S1 D2									; reset motors back to spread cycle,
                                      M569 P0.0										; check status in console
                                      M569 P0.1										; check status in console
                                      M201.1 X1000 Y1000 
                                      

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                                      • moth4017undefined
                                        moth4017
                                        last edited by moth4017

                                        @dc42 Mark as solved ... i think 🙂

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          What did you end up changing to get it right?

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                                          • moth4017undefined
                                            moth4017 @moth4017
                                            last edited by

                                            @moth4017 i added the M201.1 x300 y300 just before the stall detection setup

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