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    • blt3dpundefined
      blt3dp @dc42
      last edited by

      @Karim Just following up on if you got it to work, I've got to do the same thing for my v0.1, I'm upgrading to the v0.2 as well.

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      • Karimundefined
        Karim @blt3dp
        last edited by Karim

        @blt3dp I am still testing, it still random stall when homing.

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        • Karimundefined
          Karim @Karim
          last edited by

          Ok Guys so My XY homes ok, but I have this problem every time the printer first power up and I try to home all Axis, X axis would not move, but I can home X along and it work ok. After I have a successful Home all the problem goes away till power off and on printer the it starts again.

          ; homeall.g
          ;  called to home all axes
           
          
          M98 P"/sys/homez.g"        
          M98 P"/sys/homex.g"  		
          M98 P"/sys/homey.g"  		
           
          G1 F9000 X60 Y60 Z60
          
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          • moth4017undefined
            moth4017 @Karim
            last edited by

            @Karim hi i had this issue too so i just increased the current a little on the axis that stalled

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            • Karimundefined
              Karim @moth4017
              last edited by Karim

              @moth4017 ok i will try that, right now I have .63amps on both X and Y . I think the max current for the LDO (LDO-35STH52-1504 AH/VRN) stepper is 1.5amps.

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              • moth4017undefined
                moth4017 @Karim
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                @Karim you only need a few ma like 50mA more

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                • Karimundefined
                  Karim @moth4017
                  last edited by Karim

                  @moth4017 Ok increasing current to 1amp does nothing. It’s just the first power up and home all stalls on X axis, it looks like the printer needs to warm the electronics. But once you get a successful home all everything seems to work, oh and something the z axis would stall on homing sometimes and that have a limit swith.

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                  • moth4017undefined
                    moth4017 @Karim
                    last edited by moth4017

                    @Karim

                    what are the setting you have for the sensor less homing?
                    did you also use M201.1 as dc42 suggested?

                    i did some checks on mine tonight , i still get a non home event on the first time, so im doing a double home on x and Y , as you say after the first time it seems to be ok .

                    im about to swap my control board so i can try different drivers , im suspecting the tcm2209 and stall guard 4 , my next drivers will be stall guard 2 ,

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                    • Karimundefined
                      Karim @moth4017
                      last edited by Karim

                      @moth4017 Hey no I did try M201.1, I been working on this printer for two weeks now trying to get sensor-less homing to work properly . I have two duet 2 wifi with duex5 and they working flawlessly. I know what you are saying about homing, I have to home x and y separately then home all works it’s a hit or miss.

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                      • moth4017undefined
                        moth4017 @Karim
                        last edited by moth4017

                        @Karim hi, testing tonight , if i turn down the acceleration while homing it stall less, M201.1 X800 Y800 remember to put the values back after homing.

                        i was at , M201.1 X1200 Y1200

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators @Karim
                          last edited by

                          @Karim said in Duet 3 mini 5+ wifi sensorless homing - Help:

                          It’s just the first power up and home all stalls on X axis

                          Try using a G1 H2 move to move the motors a few mm away from the endstops at the start of homeall.g or at the start of homex.g and homey.g. That should clear the stall status.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                          • moth4017undefined
                            moth4017 @dc42
                            last edited by moth4017

                            @dc42 Hi, i tried doing the small move first this didnt work for me , it stalled the "first moved" but moved on the second time.

                            ; homex.g
                            echo "home x stelh chop mode"
                            M569 P0.0										; Check status in console
                            M569 P0.1										; Check status in console
                            G91                                             ; relative positioning
                            M569 P0.0 S1 D3 V10                             ; set to stealth chop
                            M569 P0.1 S1 D3 V10								; set to stealth chop
                            M915 P0.0 S10 F0 R1 H150                   		; Configure Z-Axis Stall Detection 
                            M915 P0.1 S10 F0 R1 H150						; Configure Z-Axis Stall Detection 
                            M201.1 X800 Y800 
                            echo "stall detection setup"
                            M17 X Y											; Check status in console
                            G1 P140											;pause to allow the drivers to characterise the motor    
                            G1 H1 X-0.2 F3000								; move a  little  for cal of sensorless homing / not stalled
                            G1 H1 Y-0.2 F3000    							; move a  little  for cal of sensorless homing / not stalle							
                            
                            echo "lower motor current"
                            M913 X30 Y30									; Lower motor current %
                            G4 P150											; wait 150ms
                            M574 X1 Y2 S3									; Configure Z-Axis stall detection homing
                            M569 P0.0										; Check status in console
                            M569 P0.1										; Check status in console
                            		
                            echo "home x"
                            G1 H1 X-350 F6000
                            G1 H2 X10 Y10
                            G1 H1 X-350 F6000
                            G1 H2 X10 Y10; Home Z-Axis actuators independently
                            M569 P0.0										; Check status in console
                            M569 P0.1										; Check status in console
                            G90 											; absolute positioning
                            ;G1 X150 F6000									; move to center of bed
                            
                            ;revert back 
                            echo "after revert back"
                            M915 P0.0 S128 F0 R1 H550                   		; Configure Z-Axis Stall Detection 
                            M915 P0.1 S128 F0 R1 H550						; Configure Z-Axis Stall Detection 
                            M913 X100  Y100									; Reset motor current %
                            M569 P0.0 S1 D2									; reset motors back to spread cycle,
                            M569 P0.1 S1 D2									; reset motors back to spread cycle,
                            M569 P0.0										; Check status in console
                            M569 P0.1										; Check status in console
                            M201.1 X1200 Y1200 
                            

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators @moth4017
                              last edited by dc42

                              @moth4017 try a longer move such as 1mm and use H2 not H1 in those moves. It needs to be more than 1 full step, or more than 4 full steps if you are using the filtering option in M915.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                              • moth4017undefined
                                moth4017 @dc42
                                last edited by moth4017

                                @dc42 Hi tried the H2 and changing distance moved , 1mm = 10 full steps on my printer , but still have random stalls on the Y axis so far .

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @moth4017
                                  last edited by dc42

                                  @moth4017 said in Duet 3 mini 5+ wifi sensorless homing - Help:

                                  but still have random stalls on the Y axis so far

                                  Are they stalls right at the start of the homing move (i.e. immediately after your 1mm G1 H2 move), or stalls part way through the homing move? If they are right at the start then try lower M201.1 values e.g. X300 Y300.

                                  Which firmware version are you using?

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                  • moth4017undefined
                                    moth4017 @dc42
                                    last edited by

                                    @dc42 3.5.0 beta2. The stall is after the small movement

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                                    • Karimundefined
                                      Karim @moth4017
                                      last edited by Karim

                                      @moth4017 Mine stall at first homing, X would stall, but if you get X to home successfully. Home all work every time, but if printer is power off overnight in the morning you have to go through that procedure again.

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                                      • moth4017undefined
                                        moth4017 @dc42
                                        last edited by

                                        @dc42 Did some testing tonight setting M201.1 to x300 y300 seems to be working at the moment , ill keep an eye on it over the weekend

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                                        • Karimundefined
                                          Karim @moth4017
                                          last edited by

                                          @moth4017 Which printer do you have , This is a Voron 0.2 Corexy.

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                                          • moth4017undefined
                                            moth4017 @Karim
                                            last edited by

                                            @Karim core XY valkyrie
                                            https://vkingprinter.com/project-valkyrie/

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