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    • Exerqtorundefined
      Exerqtor
      last edited by Exerqtor


      RRF 3.5.0-b3, Duet 3 Mini, 1LC


      Upated rrf once the new beta came out yesterday, and since that i've had issues with the extruder (connected to the 1LC) simply stopping, like if it was turned of, then come back alive. It keeps doing that through the 4 prints i've tried ( same file 4 times) on diferent places for each time i print it.

      No errors in console or the eventlog.

      Print1: The two first perimeters on the first layer wasn't printed.
      Print2: The outer or two outer perimeters on the 2nd or 3rd layer not printed.
      Print3: The outer half the layer inside not printed on layer 4(or something like that).
      Print4; Same as Print1.

      I have not done any changes to config.g since before the firmware upgrade. It's almost like the 1LC forgets to extrude from time to time.

      I'm running a test print of a 0.2mm tall 125x75 object now to see if it cuts several times on that one layer or not.


      EDIT:

      So that test print finished without the extruder acting up, but now it threw a stepper warning (one of the Z steppers) when the print finishd. And that's never happened before, don't know if it's just a coincidence or not ofcourse. Bu this is what it i got:

      15.4.2023, 17:07:54	Pressure Advance disabled
                              ABS filament unloaded
      15.4.2023, 17:07:50	Warning: Driver 0.4 warning: phase A may be disconnected
      15.4.2023, 17:07:49	Finished printing file 0:/gcodes//Shape-Box_0.2mm_ABS_0.4n_14m.gcode, print time was 0h 23m
      
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      • Exerqtorundefined
        Exerqtor @Exerqtor
        last edited by Exerqtor

        @Exerqtor
        There it happened again on a new print job. No faults, errors, warnings, weird sounds, smoke, blinking or anything other that looks off. It just stops extruding.

        I didn't manage to run a diagnose WHILE it had halted the extrusion, but this was right afterwards (if it's worth anyting):

        15.4.2023, 18:44:05	M122
        === Diagnostics ===
        RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 Mini 5+ version 3.5.0-beta.3 (2023-04-14 11:28:00) running on Duet 3 Mini5plus WiFi (standalone mode)
        Board ID: FAP55-Q967A-G65J0-401GL-0S02Z-RF9TL
        Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (29 max)
        === RTOS ===
        Static ram: 102968
        Dynamic ram: 126860 of which 232 recycled
        Never used RAM 8516, free system stack 134 words
        Tasks: NETWORK(nWait,20.9%,219) HEAT(nWait,0.0%,328) Move(nWait,0.8%,270) CanReceiv(nWait,0.0%,774) CanSender(nWait,0.0%,327) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,350) TMC(nWait,1.2%,74) MAIN(running,74.7%,351) IDLE(ready,1.4%,29) AIN(delaying,0.8%,266), total 100.0%
        Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK)
        === Platform ===
        Last reset 00:04:30 ago, cause: power up
        Last software reset at 2023-04-15 10:26, reason: HardFault imprec, Gcodes spinning, available RAM 10968, slot 0
        Software reset code 0x4063 HFSR 0x40000000 CFSR 0x00000400 ICSR 0x00000803 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x20011b78 Task NETW Freestk 482 ok
        Stack: 2002be48 00000000 200014ec 0000019f ffffffff 0002f609 00033e00 810f0000 0002f5f5 00000000 00000000 00000000 20030a34 00000800 20035758 2002be30 20018740 2002bcd5 20018740 2001e5d0 0002f78f 00000000 00000000 00000000 20011c28 00000014 62005448
        Error status: 0x00
        Aux0 errors 0,0,0
        MCU revision 3, ADC conversions started 270209, completed 270208, timed out 0, errs 0
        MCU temperature: min 41.5, current 44.5, max 44.5
        Supply voltage: min 23.3, current 23.7, max 24.0, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
        Heap OK, handles allocated/used 99/32, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 2048/924/448, gc cycles 33
        Events: 0 queued, 0 completed
        Driver 0: ok, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 35, reads 24482, writes 35, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
        Driver 1: ok, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 35, reads 24482, writes 35, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
        Driver 2: standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 24, reads 24492, writes 24, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
        Driver 3: standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 24, reads 24492, writes 24, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
        Driver 4: standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 24, reads 24493, writes 24, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
        Driver 5: standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 10, reads 24507, writes 10, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
        Driver 6: standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 10, reads 24506, writes 10, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0
        Date/time: 2023-04-15 18:44:03
        Cache data hit count 428383395
        Slowest loop: 231.95ms; fastest: 0.08ms
        === Storage ===
        Free file entries: 16
        SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 22.5MBytes/sec
        SD card longest read time 6.1ms, write time 20.1ms, max retries 0
        === Move ===
        DMs created 83, segments created 26, maxWait 58054ms, bed compensation in use: mesh, comp offset 0.000
        next step interrupt due in 130 ticks, enabled
        === DDARing 0 ===
        Scheduled moves 2041, completed 2001, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state 3
        === DDARing 1 ===
        Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
        === Heat ===
        Bed heaters 0 -1 -1 -1, chamber heaters -1 -1 -1 -1, ordering errs 0
        Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.4
        Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
        === GCodes ===
        Movement locks held by null, null
        HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
        Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
        File is doing "G1 X90.747 Y206.708 E.01123" in state(s) 0
        USB is idle in state(s) 0
        Aux is idle in state(s) 0
        Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
        Queue is idle in state(s) 0
        LCD is idle in state(s) 0
        SBC is idle in state(s) 0
        Daemon is doing "G4 S1                                                                        " in state(s) 0 0, running macro
        Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
        Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
        File2 is idle in state(s) 0, sync state 1
        Queue2 is idle in state(s) 0
        Q0 segments left 0, axes/extruders owned 0x0000807
        Code queue 0 is empty
        Q1 segments left 0, axes/extruders owned 0x0000000
        Code queue 1 is empty
        === CAN ===
        Messages queued 4333, received 5521, lost 0, boc 0
        Longest wait 4ms for reply type 6029, peak Tx sync delay 70, free buffers 18 (min 13), ts 1351/1350/0
        Tx timeouts 0,0,0,0,0,0
        === Network ===
        Slowest loop: 182.98ms; fastest: 0.00ms
        Responder states: MQTT(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0)
        HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
        = WiFi =
        Network state is active
        Module is connected to access point 
        Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
        Firmware version 2.1beta4
        MAC address bc:ff:4d:e6:b1:62
        Module reset reason: Power up, Vcc 3.38, flash size 2097152, free heap 42992
        WiFi IP address 192.168.10.50
        Signal strength -60dBm, channel 1, mode 802.11n, reconnections 0
        Clock register 00002001
        Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
        

        Have to keep the printer running, so I just rolled back too 3.5.0-b2.
        This will also somewhat confirm if it's beta3 related and not my printer thats suddenly contracted herpagonasyphilaids out of nowhere.

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        • jay_s_ukundefined
          jay_s_uk @Exerqtor
          last edited by

          @Exerqtor an m122 output from the toolboard would be more useful

          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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          • gloomyandyundefined
            gloomyandy @Exerqtor
            last edited by

            @Exerqtor Are you using input shaping and/or pressure advance? If so it might be worth providing your settings. I assume that you had updated the 1LC ro 3.5.0-B3 as well as the main board?

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            • Exerqtorundefined
              Exerqtor @gloomyandy
              last edited by

              Yeah i just updated it to 3.5.0-b3 again now before going to bed, I'm done with the prints that i had to get done so i can run some tests tomorrow.

              I was using both IS & PA in all the prints i tried, and yes everything was updated to 3.5.0-b3 😅
              The IS & PA settings for reference:

              M593 P"zvdd" F39.75 S0.0           ; Use ZVDDD input shaping to cancel ringing at 41.8Hz with 0.0 damping factor
              M572 D0 S0.040                     ; Set extruder 0 pressure advance to 0.040 seconds
              

              Like I said, gonna run some more tests tomorrow. Hopefully with a M122 from the 1LC.

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              • gloomyandyundefined
                gloomyandy @Exerqtor
                last edited by

                @Exerqtor If you are running tests and able to reproduce it then repeating the test with PA and IS turned off would probably be a useful data point.

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                • Exerqtorundefined
                  Exerqtor @gloomyandy
                  last edited by Exerqtor

                  @gloomyandy
                  The issue is that the bugger comes and goes sporadically, it's not at one single point each time.

                  My first thought was that it was related to RRF changing accelerations based on the feature type of the job (maybe in conjunction with the new PA/IS system, despite those vallues are the same throughout the whole print). I'm letting RRF handle this by emitting the feature type from the sliced gcode via a global and daemon.g changing based on that.

                  But since it seems to come and go all whilly nilly without a clear pattern i'm not so sure, I've got the accel control off on layer 1, and it's been happening on the first layer a couple times.

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                  • Exerqtorundefined
                    Exerqtor @Exerqtor
                    last edited by Exerqtor

                    Ok, so i finally managed to get a diagnosis when it wasn't extruding:

                    M122 B121
                    Diagnostics for board 121:
                    Duet TOOL1LC rev 1.1 or later firmware version 3.5.0-beta.3 (2023-04-13 18:44:05)
                    Bootloader ID: SAMC21 bootloader version 2.4 (2021-12-10)
                    All averaging filters OK
                    Never used RAM 4984, free system stack 38 words
                    Tasks: Move(nWait,0.1%,93) HEAT(nWait,0.5%,57) CanAsync(nWait,0.0%,49) CanRecv(nWait,0.0%,74) CanClock(nWait,0.0%,67) ACCEL(nWait,0.0%,53) TMC(delaying,3.0%,57) MAIN(running,91.3%,344) IDLE(ready,0.0%,27) AIN(delaying,5.0%,142), total 100.0%
                    Last reset 11:54:22 ago, cause: software
                    Last software reset data not available
                    Driver 0: pos 0, 568.8 steps/mm,standstill, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 40, reads 8529, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0, steps req 0 done 0
                    Moves scheduled 536, completed 536, in progress 0, hiccups 0, step errors 0, maxPrep 690, maxOverdue 0, maxInc 0, mcErrs 0, gcmErrs 0
                    Peak sync jitter -2/6, peak Rx sync delay 195, resyncs 0/0, no timer interrupt scheduled
                    VIN voltage: min 24.1, current 24.3, max 24.4
                    MCU temperature: min 40.5C, current 61.8C, max 61.8C
                    Last sensors broadcast 0x00000012 found 2 234 ticks ago, 0 ordering errs, loop time 1
                    CAN messages queued 367, send timeouts 0, received 208, lost 0, free buffers 37, min 37, error reg 0
                    dup 0, oos 0/0/0/15, bm 0, wbm 0, rxMotionDelay 310, adv 36379/74640
                    Accelerometer: LIS3DH, status: 00
                    I2C bus errors 0, naks 0, other errors 0
                    

                    I find this a part a little bit interesting Driver 0: pos 0, 568.8 steps/mm,standstill,? If i run a diagnosis while it's working as intended it's saying ok instead of standstill 🤔

                    This was on the first layer of the print, where i'm not doing any funny stuff. It's locked too 500mms/3 acceleration through that whole layer.

                    Don't know if it's worth anything, but this is the job file.

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                    • Exerqtorundefined
                      Exerqtor @Exerqtor
                      last edited by Exerqtor

                      Normal operation:

                      M122 b121
                      Diagnostics for board 121:
                      Duet TOOL1LC rev 1.1 or later firmware version 3.5.0-beta.3 (2023-04-13 18:44:05)
                      Bootloader ID: SAMC21 bootloader version 2.4 (2021-12-10)
                      All averaging filters OK
                      Never used RAM 3952, free system stack 38 words
                      Tasks: Move(nWait,0.5%,93) HEAT(nWait,0.5%,57) CanAsync(nWait,0.0%,49) CanRecv(nWait,0.1%,74) CanClock(nWait,0.0%,67) ACCEL(nWait,0.0%,53) TMC(nWait,3.1%,57) MAIN(running,90.7%,344) IDLE(ready,0.0%,27) AIN(delaying,5.1%,142), total 100.0%
                      Last reset 12:21:31 ago, cause: software
                      Last software reset data not available
                      Driver 0: pos 0, 568.8 steps/mm,ok, SG min 0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 40, reads 60968, writes 0, timeouts 1, DMA errors 0, CC errors 0, failedOp 0x01, steps req 0 done 1069416
                      Moves scheduled 18746, completed 18741, in progress 1, hiccups 1305, step errors 0, maxPrep 1907, maxOverdue 14034, maxInc 3271, mcErrs 0, gcmErrs 0
                      Peak sync jitter -4/10, peak Rx sync delay 278, resyncs 0/0, no timer interrupt scheduled
                      VIN voltage: min 24.1, current 24.3, max 24.5
                      MCU temperature: min 40.5C, current 81.8C, max 81.8C
                      Last sensors broadcast 0x00000012 found 2 104 ticks ago, 0 ordering errs, loop time 1
                      CAN messages queued 32031, send timeouts 0, received 33141, lost 0, free buffers 37, min 36, error reg 0
                      dup 0, oos 0/0/0/2340, bm 0, wbm 0, rxMotionDelay 614, adv 35814/74649
                      Accelerometer: LIS3DH, status: 00
                      I2C bus errors 0, naks 0, other errors 0
                      
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                      • Exerqtorundefined
                        Exerqtor @Exerqtor
                        last edited by Exerqtor

                        I've ran that job file three times now with PA on, and it stops extruding each time it starts the first layer infill.

                        I'm printing another one of the same job now, with PA disabled, and it's just finished with the first layer WITHOUT the extruder halting. So it looks like it's something going on with the PA,

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                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                          jay_s_uk @Exerqtor
                          last edited by

                          @Exerqtor i can also replicate an issue with PA and IS enabled using 3.5b3. Best to disable PA if you can for now as it seems to print ok without it enabled

                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                          • Exerqtorundefined
                            Exerqtor @jay_s_uk
                            last edited by Exerqtor

                            @jay_s_uk said in RRF 3.5.0-b3 sporadically stops extruding:

                            @Exerqtor i can also replicate an issue with PA and IS enabled using 3.5b3. Best to disable PA if you can for now as it seems to print ok without it enabled

                            Glad to hear it's not an isolated issue on my end at least. Yup, keeping PA of for the time being, while looking out for other bugs 😅

                            EDIT:

                            I retract my statement about disabling PA and keep trying it out. Since it's another bug that causes the whole printer to reboot at random (seemingly) intervals without any reason. So i'm reverting to 3.5.0-b2 again.

                            RIP 3.5.0-b3, you won't be missed🙈.

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                              gloomyandy @Exerqtor
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                              @Exerqtor This may be too late, but if you get a reboot can you run M122 after it restarts and post the output. The info in there will help a lot with trying to solve the issue. It is probably worth checking the M122 output now (from whatever version you are now running) as the data from the previous crash may still be present.

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                              • Exerqtorundefined
                                Exerqtor @gloomyandy
                                last edited by

                                @gloomyandy
                                Yeah it's way to late at this point, after the third reboot i reverted to b2. Don't look like it's a prevalent issue either since it's not being reported by anyone else.

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                                • gloomyandyundefined
                                  gloomyandy @Exerqtor
                                  last edited by

                                  @Exerqtor It may not be too late, the reset data is stored in flash that may not be erased when you reinstall. Worth checking to see what M122 reports.

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                                  • gloomyandyundefined
                                    gloomyandy @gloomyandy
                                    last edited by

                                    @gloomyandy Also even though others may not be reporting the problem, it may give clues towards other issues, so definitely worth reporting if you possibly can.

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                                    • Exerqtorundefined
                                      Exerqtor @gloomyandy
                                      last edited by

                                      @gloomyandy I can pull a M122 from both the mobo and toolboard as soon as this print finishes.
                                      If it's anything worth looking at or not i have no idea 🤷‍♂️

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                                      • gloomyandyundefined
                                        gloomyandy @Exerqtor
                                        last edited by

                                        @Exerqtor This (and the stack trace that follows it) is the part of interest....

                                        Last software reset at 2023-04-15 10:26, reason: HardFault imprec, Gcodes spinning, available RAM 10968, slot 0
                                        
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                                        • Exerqtorundefined
                                          Exerqtor @gloomyandy
                                          last edited by

                                          @gloomyandy
                                          This is from the Mini:

                                          Last reset 02:45:09 ago, cause: software
                                          Last software reset at 2023-04-23 10:32, reason: User, Gcodes spinning, available RAM 5696, slot 1
                                          Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00446000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
                                          

                                          And the 1LC:

                                          Last reset 02:46:46 ago, cause: software
                                          Last software reset data not available
                                          
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                                          • gloomyandyundefined
                                            gloomyandy @Exerqtor
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                                            @Exerqtor Unfortunately it looks like the reset data has been wiped by the older firmware. Oh well, thanks for taking the time to check. If you do decide to try 3.5.0-beta.3 again and you get a reset please grab the m122 output and post it.

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