First homing attempts failing.

sjason1377 · 22 Nov 2017, 20:52

Machine uses 1 S0 style switch for x high end 1 So y low end and 1 z S0 low end. they are the reprap pursa I3 type. I have them according to my understanding configed proper, but I will let U be the judge of that. I am up loading my config file. Machine moves z up like it should, then move the x or y it's doing first about 3 mm and stops. the the DRO window show -300 mm when it was just 0. than the error message, homing x or y failed. Not sure if its a homing.g or config.g issue. no leds lit on board in non-strucck state either. however the web interface reports home switch hit, no. hit one and it say yes. Tried swapping S0 for S1 and it just reverses. never an led lit un struck like duet info state should exist.; Configuration file for Duet Ethernet (firmware version 1.19.2)
; executed by the firmware on start-up
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Mon Oct 23 2017 18:51:17 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time)

; General preferences
M111 S0 ; Debugging off
G21 ; Work in millimetres
G90 ; Send absolute coordinates…
M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
M555 P1 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like RepRapFirmare
M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
M208 X295 Y295 Z207 S0 ; Set axis maxima

; Endstops
M574 X2 Y1 Z1 E0:1 S0 ; Define active high microswitches
M558 P5 X0 Y0 Z1 H5 F100 T2000 ; Set Z probe type to BLTOUCH, the axes for which it is used and the probe + travel speeds
G31 P50 X50 Y10 Z.7 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
M557 X35:200 Y35:200 S20 ; Define mesh grid
M557 R78

; tools
M563 P0 D6:8:9 H1 F2
G10 P0 S0 R0 X0 Y0

; Drives
M569 P10 S1 R0 T2 ; Drive 10 goes forawrds
M569 P11 S0 R1 T2 ; Drive 11 goes forwards
M569 P5 S0 R0 T2 ; Drive 5 goes forwards
M569 P6 S1 R1 T2 ; Drive 6 goes forwards
M569 P8 S1 R1 T2 ; Drive 8 goes forwards
M569 P9 S1 R1 T2 ; Drive 9 goes forwards
M584 X10 Y11 Z5 E6:8:9
M350 X128 Y128 Z128 E128:128:128 I0 ; Configure microstepping without interpolation
M92 X800 Y800 Z25600 E640:640:640 ; Set steps per mm
M566 X1200 Y1200 Z18 E120:120:120 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X10000 Y10000 Z280 E1200:1200:1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X500 Y500 Z250 E250:250:250 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X0 Y0 Z0 E0:0:0 ; Set motor currents (mA)
M84 S0 ; Disable motor idle current reduction

; Heaters
M143 S260 ; Set maximum heater temperature to 260C
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
M307 H7 A1 C1 D1
; Tools
M563 P0 D0:1:2 H1 ; Define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

; Network
M550 Pkathryn printer ; Set machine name
M540 PBE:EF:DE:AD:FE:ED ; Set MAC address
M552 P192.168.2.9 S1 ; Enable network static address
M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

; Fans
M106 P0 S1 I0 F255 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
M106 P1 S1 I0 F255 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
M106 P2 S1 I F255 H1 T45 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

; Custom settings are not configured

; Miscellaneous
M501 ; Load saved parameters from non-volatile memory

; homeall.g
; called to home all axes

; Lift Z relative to current position
G91
G1 Z5 F3000
G90

; Move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
G1 Y-300 F1800 S1

; Go back a few mm
G91
G1 Y5 F3000
G90

; Move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
G1 Y-300 F360 S1

; Lower Z again
G91
G1 Z-5 F3000
G90

dc42 · 22 Nov 2017, 20:57

Go to Settings->Machine Properties in the web interface and you will find the endstops status displayed. Test that they show as at high stop or low stop as appropriate when triggered, and not otherwise.

sjason1377 · 22 Nov 2017, 22:02

I don't see anything that designates locaction. just end sot hit yes/no

sjason1377 · 22 Nov 2017, 22:04

I see dtive number 0,1,2,3,and so on that don't match what I have.
Idle

kathryn printer

Tools / Heaters / Extra
Control All
Tool Heater Current Active Standby
Tool 0
T0
Heater 1
active 24.4 °C

Bed

Heater 0
standby 30.8 °C

Temperature Chart
0
50
100
150
200
250
Machine Status
Head Position X Y Z
100.0 0.0 0.00
Extruder Drives Drive 1 Drive 2 Drive 3
0.0 0.0 0.0
Sensors Vin Z-Probe
0.5 V 0

Machine Control
Print Status

G-Code Console
G-Code Files
Macros

Filaments
Settings

General
User Interface
List Items
System Editor
Machine Properties
Tools

Drive Configuration
Drive Endstop hit Minimum Maximum InstantDv Max Speed Acceleration Motor Current
0 No 0 mm 295 mm 20 mm/s 166.67 mm/s 500 mm/s² 0 mA
1 No 0 mm 295 mm 20 mm/s 166.67 mm/s 500 mm/s² 0 mA
2 No 0 mm 207 mm 1 mm/s 4.67 mm/s 250 mm/s² 0 mA
3 Yes n/a n/a 2 mm/s 20 mm/s 250 mm/s² 0 mA
4 Yes n/a n/a 2 mm/s 20 mm/s 250 mm/s² 0 mA
5 No n/a n/a 2 mm/s 20 mm/s 250 mm/s² 0 mA
6 No n/a n/a 2 mm/s 20 mm/s 250 mm/s² 0 mA
7 No n/a n/a 2 mm/s 20 mm/s 250 mm/s² 0 mA
8 No n/a n/a 2 mm/s 20 mm/s 250 mm/s² 0 mA
9 No n/a n/a 2 mm/s 20 mm/s 250 mm/s² 0 mA
Z-Probe

Type:
Digital Switch (5)
Trigger Height:
0.7 mm
Trigger Value:
50

Other

Geometry:
Cartesian
Motor Idle Current Factor:
30%
Motor Idle Timeout:
never

dc42 · 22 Nov 2017, 22:10

Drive 0 endstop is X, 1 is Y, and 2 is Z.

sjason1377 · 22 Nov 2017, 22:29

m119 reports x at max y at min z at min, just like I have them. machine won't home for another reason, then the switches and there config. most be a homing config issue

sjason1377 · 22 Nov 2017, 22:30

yes but those drives are remapped x10 y11 z5

dc42 · 22 Nov 2017, 23:30

@sjason1377:

m119 reports x at max y at min z at min, just like I have them. machine won't home for another reason, then the switches and there config. most be a homing config issue

Is that the report only when the carriages are at their endstops, or all the time, or only when they are not at the endstops?

sjason1377 · 23 Nov 2017, 00:28

Ok I got x to travel for homing, but didn't stop. y won't even try nor will z.

sjason1377 · 23 Nov 2017, 01:08

M119 while holding any one of the switches tells me that that switch is hit and show max for x which is correct. min for y and z also correct. The machine tried to home x once and slammed without stopped despite the m119 showing the switch works and config properly. Now trying to run a print, its homes x y together, but stop both falsely reporting the axis it shorted. the homes z not stopping for that one. might I ad no usb connected and pc, duet, drives, everything powered off 1 power supply made for servers. I scoped it for noise. nothing. Just can't figure it out. x travel exceed the y, but your never going be in the same starting place every time you home. I even g92 the thing to set a far race. last time it homed this way it gave y -595. machine size in config is 0 295y

dc42 · 23 Nov 2017, 08:58

Please post the contents of your homing files.

sjason1377 · 23 Nov 2017, 15:50

The information you requested. Switches were just replaced to these, from the makerbot v1.2 to eliminate all possible failure modes. these are normally closed with no resistor. com and nc connected to outside pins of endstop connectors. individually tested. x drive 10 max endstop. m119 reports x at max when i hold switch triggered. x not stopped when I release. y at min triggered. y not stop when not triggered. Z at min triggered and z not stopped when not triggered. Machine properties console concurs with these results.

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OF 0.98 N type:
OF 1.96 N & 3.92 N type:
Life
Mechanical:
Electrical:
Ambient temperature:
Humidity:
Contact material:
Weight:
0.1 mm - 1 m/s (button type)
600 operations per minute
30 operations per minute
100mΩ min. (tested at 500 VDC)
15mΩ maximium
AC 1000V 50/60 Hz 1 min
AC 2000V 50/60 Hz 1 min
AC 2000V 50/60 Hz 1 min
10 - 55 Hz, 1.5mm double amplitude
Under 98 m/s²
Under 196 m/s²
Under 294 m/s²
10,000,000 operations min
100,000 operations min
-25°C to +80°C (without frost or condensation)
Under 85% (about +5 ~ 35)
AgNi alloy; AgCdO alloy (does not meet RoHS directive)
6.2 g (button type)
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Action seat (OP) 14.7 +/1 0.4 mm, prev-travel (PT) max.
is 1.2 mm (button type shown below as example).
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www.temcoindustrial.com
Specications may vary and are subject to change. For certied drawings and specications, please contact a TEMCo representative.
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Button
Drive Lever
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Contact
Flat Spring
Body
STRUCTURAL DIAGRAM
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22.2 +/- 0.1
2-3.1 installation hole or M3 screw hole
MICRO SWITCHES
48621 Warm Springs Blvd Fremont, CA 94539, USA
Phone:
Fax:
www.temcoindustrial.com
Specications may vary and are subject to change. For certied drawings and specications, please contact a TEMCo representative.
(510) 490-2187
(510) 490-1507

Now myconfig.g

; Configuration file for Duet Ethernet (firmware version 1.19.2)
; executed by the firmware on start-up
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Mon Oct 23 2017 18:51:17 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time)

; General preferences
M111 S0 ; Debugging off
G21 ; Work in millimetres
G90 ; Send absolute coordinates…
M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
M555 P1 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like RepRapFirmare
M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
M208 X295 Y295 Z207 S0 ; Set axis maxima

; Endstops
M574 X2 Y1 Z1 E0:1 S1 ; Define active high microswitches
M558 P5 X0 Y0 Z1 H5 F100 T2000 ; Set Z probe type to BLTOUCH, the axes for which it is used and the probe + travel speeds
G31 P50 X50 Y10 Z.7 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
M557 X50:275 Y50:275 S20 ; Define mesh grid
M557 R105

; tools
M563 P0 D6:8:9 H1 F2
G10 P0 S0 R0 X0 Y0

; Drives
M569 P10 S1 R0 T2 ; Drive 10 goes forawrds
M569 P11 S0 R0 T2 ; Drive 11 goes reverse
M569 P5 S0 R0 T2 ; Drive 5 goes reverse
M569 P6 S1 R1 T2 ; Drive 6 goes forwards
M569 P8 S1 R1 T2 ; Drive 8 goes forwards
M569 P9 S1 R1 T2 ; Drive 9 goes forwards
M584 X10 Y11 Z5 E6:8:9
M350 X128 Y128 Z128 E128:128:128 I0 ; Configure microstepping without interpolation
M92 X800 Y800 Z25600 E640:640:640 ; Set steps per mm
M566 X1200 Y1200 Z18 E120:120:120 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X19000 Y19000 Z280 E1600:1600:1600 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X700 Y700 Z430 E350:350:350 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X0 Y0 Z0 E0:0:0 ; Set motor currents (mA)
M84 S0 ; Disable motor idle current reduction

; Heaters
M143 S260 ; Set maximum heater temperature to 260C
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
M307 H7 A1 C1 D1
; Tools
M563 P0 D0:1:2 H1 ; Define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

; Network
M550 Pkathryn printer ; Set machine name
M540 PBE:EF:DE:AD:FE:ED ; Set MAC address
M552 P192.168.2.9 S1 ; Enable network static address
M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

; Fans
M106 P0 S1 I0 F255 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
M106 P1 S1 I0 F255 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
M106 P2 S1 I F255 H1 T45 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

; Custom settings are not configured

; Miscellaneous
M501 ; Load saved parameters from non-volatile memory

; homeall.g
; called to home all axes
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Mon Oct 23 2017 18:51:17 GMT-0400

; Relative positioning
G91

; Lift Z
G1 Z5 F1500

; Course home X and Y
G1 X290 Y-290 F750 S1

; Move away from the endstops
G1 X-10 Y-10 F1000

; Fine home X and Y
G1 X290 Y-290 F250 S1

; Absolute positioning
G90

; Go to first bed probe point and home Z
G1 X50 Y50 F1500
G30

; Uncomment the following line to lift the nozzle after probing
G1 Z5 F100

homex.g
; homex.g
; called to home the X axis
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Mon Oct 23 2017 18:51:17 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time)

G91
G1 Z5 F1500
G90

G1 X290 F750 S1

G91
G1 X-5 F1000
G90

G1 X290 F250 S1

G91
G1 Z-5 F1000
G90

Homey.g

; homey.g
; called to home the Y axis
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Mon Oct 23 2017 18:51:17 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time)

; Lift Z relative to current position
G91
G1 Z5 F3000
G90

; Move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
G1 Y-290 F1000 S1

; Go back a few mm
G91
G1 Y5 F1000
G90

; Move slowly to y axis endstop once more (second pass)
G1 Y-290 F250 S1

; Lower Z again
G91
G1 Z-5 F1000
G90

Homez.g

; homez.g
; called to home the Z axis
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Mon Oct 23 2017 18:51:17 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time)

; bed.g
; called to perform automatic bed compensation via G32
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Mon Oct 23 2017 18:51:17 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time)

; Clear any bed transform
;M561

M401 ;deployprobe
G29 S0 ;probebedmesh
M402 ;retractprobe
M374 ;save map to file.

deployprobe.g
M280 P7 S10

M280 P7 S90

dc42 · 23 Nov 2017, 16:51

Suggestions:

1. You are using external drivers for X and Y, but you have M350 X128 Y128. You should set X and Y to 16 in that M350 command, even if you are actually using higher microstepping on your external drivers. I'm not sure that using X128 Y128 in M350 will cause a problem, but it might. Leave your M92 steps/mm at 800 if that is correct for the microstep setting on your drivers.

2. What types of external drivers are you using for X and Y? You may need to extend the pulse width to more than 2us. Try T4 in your M569 P10 and M569 P11 commands until everything is working.

3. I suggest you test basic motion first. Send G91 to put the printer into relative coordinate mode. Then send these commands and check that the movement is as expected:

G1 S2 X50 F3000 ; should move the head 50mm in the +X direction
G1 S2 X-50 F3000 ; should move the head 50mm in the -X direction
G1 S2 Y50 F3000 ; should move the head 50mm in the +Y direction
G1 S2 Y-50 F3000 ; should move the head 50mm in the -Y direction

HTH David

sjason1377 · 23 Nov 2017, 18:26

As I stated before, I am requesting answers in the most efficient manner to correct my issues. This benefits both of us. I have 2 years backround in cnc millturn 5 axis setup and control. I already calibrated the machine, once movement happened, by placing it on my mill and following the mills with a feed sensitive probe in spindle. The board produces exact move as advertised. The issue with 128 micro in M350 command much be that way. Otherwise I get 1/8 the travel distance. I know my setup well. this is the 3rd printer board I've tried. Smoothieboard lacked the drive flexibility. Arduino, well you no there limits. I like the Gcode on the fly. Printer worked with 3 other boards. The drivers are kl 5056d they come with software and serial port comm to pc for tuning and calibration. Nothing on my side is causing any of this action. My question is this. Regardless if i am right or wrong, asking someone to look at the files and confirm or direct me is actually a separate request than Diagnosing the total build. I just want to know that my config.g and homing files are in correct. I can play tag for weeks over hardware and calibration, but if it's in the files causing the issue, how many times am I going to check what I know already works. Please understand I total get the switches electrically, mechanically and the moves are spot on. It stops sometimes. Homes 1 axis correct, than doesn't other times. but never all 3 completely as a homeall.g or 1 after the next. I'm not even going to test probing until it's reliable first. To answer the request, I get 6.24903 reading from uccnc off the mill, and 6.25 on duet. again sensor to sensor spindle to nozzle test.

If I could just receive conformation that I have properly configured those homing files and that config.g is in order as it relates to homing of axis plains I would be very grateful. If I need to correct them I will receive any advice with much thanks!

deckingman · 23 Nov 2017, 18:47

@sjason1377:

…....................................
If I could just receive conformation that I have properly configured those homing files..........................

No, you haven't. There is an inconsistency between the homing of Y in homeall.g and the homey.g file (clue - the homeall.g looks wrong). Also, if it were me, I'd home Z at the centre of the bed rather than 50mm from a corner but you seem to have far more experience than me so I'll not argue.

sjason1377 · 23 Nov 2017, 22:37

Ok I tested machine with on board drivers and it homed. This board doesn't work with x y z on external drivers like advertised

dc42 · 23 Nov 2017, 23:15

The Duet does work with external drivers for XYZ. However, the drive voltage available on the CONN_LCD connector is 3.3V, and your external drivers may require 5V.

sjason1377 · 23 Nov 2017, 23:24

what does that have to do with machine not stopping for the endstop switches? this post is about homing not drivers. It want home and you still haven't commented on the files I up loaded. I hit the home x button and slam. Hit home y and slam. S1 is is write in the file. I see the led go out everytime for the axes homing, but slam and stripping the belt. Please just tell me why that is?

T3P3Tony · 23 Nov 2017, 23:42

; Course home X and Y
G1 X290 Y-290 F750 S1

; Move away from the endstops
G1 X-10 Y-10 F1000

; Fine home X and Y
G1 X290 Y-290 F250 S1

This is wrong if your Y endstop is a minimum one then you are moving negative 290, then trying to move negative 10 it should be +10. As deckingman pointed out this is different in homeall.g from homey.g so you will get a different result depending on how you call homing.

Also you have a very different homeZ from homeall.g I would get the individual axes working homing by them selves, then copy those elements into the homeall.g

dc42 · 23 Nov 2017, 23:57

@sjason1377:

what does that have to do with machine not stopping for the endstop switches? this post is about homing not drivers. It want home and you still haven't commented on the files I up loaded. I hit the home x button and slam. Hit home y and slam. S1 is is write in the file. I see the led go out everytime for the axes homing, but slam and stripping the belt. Please just tell me why that is?

I have already commented on your files: i pointed out that using M350 to set microstepping on external drivers might be problematic. Ian and Tony have pointed out issues with your homing files.

Another issue I can see with your config.g file is that the maximum speed you have configured in the M203 command is much too high to be achievable, especially in view of your high steps/mm. But that shouldn't affect homing because the commanded speeds are much lower.

Please provide a link to the datasheet for the external drivers you are using, and tell us how you have connected them to the Duet.