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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators @CNCModeller
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      @CNCModeller I don't think the static magnetic field should affect the sensor significantly, because it's unlikely to cause magnetic saturation.

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators @dc42
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        I've made some further improvements to the scanning probe software:

        • Previously I was fitting the sensor frequency vs. height calibration points to a quadratic curve. When I plotted the residual in a spreadsheet I saw that there was a small cubic residual error. Now I fit a cubic curve to the points instead.
        • I hadn't noticed that during calibration, when the sensor got close to the bed it returned an amplitude error, which affected the calibration. I have increased the oscillation amplitude to fix this.

        Here is a 522 point height map produced by the scanning sensor in 21 seconds, including the time taken to do a regular probe at bed centre (to establish an accurate Z=0 datum) and then calibrate the scanning probe:

        466c0e3f-4f23-4686-b5d4-1354e48b54ea-image.png

        Here is a height map of the same bed produced using the microswitch probe in 5 min 28 seconds (I reduced the dive height to 2mm to speed up probing):

        983b9d47-60c5-41be-8762-1c74e71040e6-image.png

        There's not much difference between them, except for a 0.04mm offset that I need to track down.

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        • samlogan87undefined
          samlogan87 @dc42
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          @dc42 when you did that, was the bed warm or are you still playing around with it when it’s cold?

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @samlogan87
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            @samlogan87 it's still cold. I'll try heating the bed to 80C next.

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            • o_lampeundefined
              o_lampe @dc42
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              @dc42 said in Scanning Z probe support in RRF 3.5:

              There's not much difference between them

              The max. deviation numbers have a huge difference:
              -0.351 vs -0.198
              That's almost a layer thickness, or am I wrong?

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              • samlogan87undefined
                samlogan87 @dc42
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                @dc42 cool. It is looking very promising though. Awesome work. I have a 400x400mm bed and always have issues with bed flatness especially when you really heat it up to do nylons etc

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @o_lampe
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                  @o_lampe said in Scanning Z probe support in RRF 3.5:

                  The max. deviation numbers have a huge difference:
                  -0.351 vs -0.198
                  That's almost a layer thickness, or am I wrong?

                  Those most negative height error values are in the mid right hand edge of the map. 0.04mm of the difference is accounted for by the offset between the height maps. I think the remainder is caused by the bed magnet at that position. It's now clear to me that the six bed magnets are causing slight dips in the height map produced by the scanning probe. This is especially clear along the left hand edge.

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                  • lparnell34undefined
                    lparnell34
                    last edited by lparnell34

                    Im getting a G31: invalid z probe index error and also Error: M558: Unknown pin name 'i2c.ldc1612'
                    I modified my config.g and mesh.g to include your changes. Im using the sammyc21 expansion board.

                    I'm also using the latest firmware that I built for the sammyc21 and duet3 6hc from github today.

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators @lparnell34
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                      @lparnell34 sounds like you must have built RRF using the wrong branches from Github. Use the 3.5-dev branches.

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                      • lparnell34undefined
                        lparnell34 @dc42
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                        @dc42 I used the 3.5 dev builds.

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators @lparnell34
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                          @lparnell34 I haven't tested the SammyC21 implementation. Looks like I left out the new pin definitions. I'll fix that.

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators @lparnell34
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                            @lparnell34 I've committed that fix to Duet3Expansion. Please try again.

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                            • lparnell34undefined
                              lparnell34 @dc42
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                              @dc42 alright thanks. I'll give it a try in a bit.

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                              • lparnell34undefined
                                lparnell34 @dc42
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                                @dc42 that fixed both of my issues. Thanks.

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                                • DeadNewbieundefined
                                  DeadNewbie @dc42
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                                  @dc42

                                  very interested in this, can you stick me down as a beta tester if you want one.

                                  regards

                                  Michael

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators @DeadNewbie
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                                    @DeadNewbie I can supply firmware binaries with scanning probe support for anyone who wants to try them. The support will be included in firmware 3.5.0-rc.1 which I hope to release 2 or 3 weeks from now.

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                                    • samlogan87undefined
                                      samlogan87 @dc42
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                                      @dc42 are you guys likely to release a toolboard with a i2c connector?

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                                      • oliofundefined
                                        oliof @samlogan87
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                                        @samlogan87 dc42 wrote upstream

                                        For the future, we are considering making a dedicated CAN-connected board to support the LDC1612 as well as tool board variants with this chip on board.

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                                        • lparnell34undefined
                                          lparnell34
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                                          @dc42 I was trying to test z probe scanning but it seems the probe is reading wrong. It says 22768239 under z probe on dwc dashboard. When I run G29 K1 it scans the bed but the max deviation is 1256mm and after it's done scanning it keeps lowering the Z axis until it bottoms out and grinds.

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators @lparnell34
                                            last edited by dc42

                                            @lparnell34 you may need to adjust the drive level of the sensor. Run M122 B# where # is the address of the tool board and look at the LDC1612 status at the end. It should report the drive level but it may also report "amplitude error". If you run M122 again it should report a new drive level and no error. After that the sensor should work properly. This is best done with the sensor as close to the bed as you expect it to get during scanning. I set a nominal Z height of 3mm as the trigger height in G31 and I don't expect more than 1mm of error, so I did this at 2mm Z height.

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