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    • gloomyandyundefined
      gloomyandy @moth4017
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      @moth4017 Is this new with RC2? If not what results did you get with RC1?

      Looking at your graph I'd say the message is correct. If you look at the shape of the heating zigzags I'd say that they are not identical. I've no idea why that would be, but my understanding is the PTC heaters can be tricky to tune. Do you have any issues if you just use the figures that have been reported?

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      • moth4017undefined
        moth4017 @gloomyandy
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        @gloomyandy i get a heater fault the first time it heats up to 60C
        Heater 3 fault: temperature rising too slowly: expected 0.13°C/sec measured 0.03°C/sec
        the way im getting around it at the moment is to set the heater to 50C then 55C then 60C with about 5 minutes between each setting

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        • gloomyandyundefined
          gloomyandy @moth4017
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          @moth4017 What about my other questions? Is this new in RC2?

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          • gloomyandyundefined
            gloomyandy @gloomyandy
            last edited by gloomyandy

            @moth4017 If you look at the graph you can see that it for some reason the heating rate is much lower during the initial heatup than it is when close to temperature, so I'd say the errors are correct. You may need to set the parameters manually, or use the workaround that you currently have.

            Maybe @dc42 has some thought on what is happening with this heater?

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            • moth4017undefined
              moth4017 @moth4017
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              @moth4017 yes the latest one
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              • moth4017undefined
                moth4017 @gloomyandy
                last edited by moth4017

                @gloomyandy

                i just did another switch on from ambient so i could capture the point at which the error happends
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                you can see just above the error the temperature reached 38C and requested 60C ,

                PTC heater wave for a 15C rise , with PWM at 100%
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                • gloomyandyundefined
                  gloomyandy @moth4017
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                  @moth4017 You still have not answered my question. Is this a new problem? Did you run the same tuning under RC1 (or any earlier version), if so what results did you get?

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                  • moth4017undefined
                    moth4017 @gloomyandy
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                    @gloomyandy not sure it may have always been there ive only just finished setting up the dry box

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                    • Exerqtorundefined
                      Exerqtor @moth4017
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                      @moth4017 This is totally off-topic, but have you intentionally disabled text/font smoothing for some reason? =S

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                      • moth4017undefined
                        moth4017 @Exerqtor
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                        @Exerqtor If i new what that was i may be able to answer 🙂

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                        • moth4017undefined
                          moth4017 @moth4017
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                          @moth4017 can anyone suggest some other work arounds for the the PID values to help out with the PTC heaters?

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                          • moth4017undefined
                            moth4017 @moth4017
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                            @moth4017 has anyone done a PID tune algorithm for PTC heaters?

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