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    • deckingmanundefined
      deckingman @Dizzwold
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      @Dizzwold Dunno. I guess we need to first check that the correct macro is being triggered with the switch in each position. Try doing M581 P2 T3 S1 R0 and keep the existing M581 P2 T2 S0 R0. So we have two triggers (2 and 3) and one should run on a rising edge the other on a falling edge. Then make trigger2.g with just a single command M118 S" This is trigger 2", and trigger3.g with just a single command M118 S"This is trigger 3".

      Then exercise your switch and see what happens. Hopefully you'll get a message "This is trigger 2" when the switch changes from one state to another and "This is trigger 3" when the state changes back. Once we are sure that part is working, then we can think about what commands to put in each trigger macro.

      Ian
      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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      • Dizzwoldundefined
        Dizzwold @deckingman
        last edited by Dizzwold

        @deckingman said in Cast Toolplate Bed Progress ?:

        This is trigger 2

        Hi Ian,

        Hmm... I tried what you suggested above, and i worked as expected;
        Trigger 2 when the E Stop Button is pressed S1
        Trigger 3 when released S0

        So I've then replaced Trigger 2 with
        M112
        M999
        and Trigger 3 with
        M98 P"config.g"

        Same problem DWC on my computer needs a physical click on the RESET button displayed on the screen (paneldue states HALTED), so it would seem that the M98 P"config.g" is the issue.
        Screen Shot 2024-01-08 at 18.08.19.png
        Config.g;

        ; Custom settings are not defined
         ; Emergency Stop
        M950 J2 C"io3.in"
        M581 P2 T2 S1 R0
        
        ;M950 J2 C"io3.in"
        M581 P2 T3 S0 R0
        
         ; Z Axis Limit Switch
        ;M950 J3 C"io2.in"
        ;M581 P3 T3 S0 R0
        

        Trigger2.g;

        ;Trigger2.g Reset Emergency Stop Button
        M112
        M999
        
        ;M118 S"This is Trigger 2"
        

        Trigger3.g

        ;Trigger3.g Z Axis Limt Switch
        
        ;M118 S"This is Trigger 3"
        M98 P"config.g"
        

        Maybe it's not possible?

        Dizzwold

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        • deckingmanundefined
          deckingman @Dizzwold
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          @Dizzwold said in Cast Toolplate Bed Progress ?:

          Maybe it's not possible?

          Maybe. I'd have thought there ought to be a way to recover from an emergency stop but the docs just talk about power cycling the board. I'm surprised running config g doesn't work because that is effectively all that happens when power is restored.......but there is possibly a work around.

          The obvious one is do as I do and use the emergency stop button to physically interrupt the 24V power to the board(s).

          But failing that, maybe we can do something else. So rather than an emergency stop, think about what you actually want to stop. I guess that's motors and heaters. Heaters are easy - just set the temperatures to zero in one macro and restore them in the other. So what about using M18 instead of M112 to disable motors? It might not be immediate though so might have to wait for any moves to finish which I guess is not what you want an emergency stop to do? M0 is another option but again, I don't think it will work until the current move is complete.

          Ian
          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @Dizzwold
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            @Dizzwold said in Cast Toolplate Bed Progress ?:

            Maybe it's not possible?

            A question for @chrishamm I think.

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            • deckingmanundefined
              deckingman @Phaedrux
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              @Phaedrux said in Cast Toolplate Bed Progress ?:

              @Dizzwold said in Cast Toolplate Bed Progress ?:

              Maybe it's not possible?

              A question for @chrishamm I think.

              ,..,....or @dc42. Essentially we're trying to find a way to reset a printer after M112 has been sent, without cycling power. The OP is using trigger macros so it can be a series of commands rather than a single command. Apparently running config g via M98 doesn't do the job and I'd have thought it would.

              Ian
              https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @deckingman
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                @deckingman sending M999 works. The emergency stop button sends M112 followed a little later by M999.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                • deckingmanundefined
                  deckingman @dc42
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                  @dc42 said in Cast Toolplate Bed Progress ?:

                  @deckingman sending M999 works. The emergency stop button sends M112 followed a little later by M999.

                  Maybe I've misunderstood the OP's problem. Looking back through his posts he is saying " DWC on my computer needs a physical click on the RESET button displayed on the screen". I think it's that "DWC thing" that he's trying to overcome. He says he's tried all combinations of M999 etc in his trigger macros.

                  Ian
                  https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                  https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                  • Dizzwoldundefined
                    Dizzwold @deckingman
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                    @deckingman

                    That's correct, I'm talking on the computer DWC interface.
                    If I clicking a button on screen with my cursor on my computer, I'm essentially sending a single line of code once to the Duet, so why can't a physical button do this?
                    I appreciate that DWC is an interface used both by the Paneldue and as it would suggest on mobile or computers (Duet 'Web' Control).

                    I had looked at other options like for a filament run-out sensor, maybe this or like you've suggested with disabling/re-enabling the steppers are the only options.

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                    • deckingmanundefined
                      deckingman @Dizzwold
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                      @Dizzwold Definitely one for @chrishamm then.

                      Ian
                      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @Dizzwold
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                        @Dizzwold said in Cast Toolplate Bed Progress ?:

                        I'm essentially sending a single line of code once to the Duet, so why can't a physical button do this?

                        What code are you trying to send?

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • deckingmanundefined
                          deckingman @Dizzwold
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                          @Dizzwold Just a thought but what happens if you refresh your browser after the macro containing M999 has run? Does DWC still want you to press a reset button?

                          Ian
                          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                          • Dizzwoldundefined
                            Dizzwold @deckingman
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                            @deckingman @fcwilt

                            Hi Guys,

                            Again thank you for your support and input.

                            @fcwilt
                            Sorry you misunderstand me.
                            I'm not trying to send any line of code. I'm just stating what clicking the on screen "Reset Machine" Button possibly does (on my computer screen). I'm no programmer but I believe DWC is Javascript and it would probably be something like onclick to enable a function for M999.

                            @deckingman
                            I've tried your suggestion with the following, but refreshing the browser makes no difference. If anything it makes it longer to reset the machine as your also reconnecting before resetting.
                            Also during the time after pressing the Emergency Stop Button, while the computer screen states and requests Reset Machine, the paneldue is Halted. It's either press Stop on the paneldue or click Reset Machine on the computer screen.
                            I think it's a case of getting into the software code for the GUI, to be able to enable this as a use, unless this plugin might help as previously mentioned by @Phaedrux in another post;
                            https://github.com/MintyTrebor/BtnCmd

                             ; Emergency Stop
                            M950 J2 C"io3.in"
                            M581 P2 T2 S1 R0
                            M581 P2 T3 S0 R0
                            
                            ;Trigger2.g Reset Emergency Stop Button
                            M112
                            M999
                            
                            ;Trigger3.g Z Axis Limt Switch
                            M98 P"config.g"
                            

                            Then changed to;

                             ; Emergency Stop
                            M950 J2 C"io3.in"
                            M581 P2 T0 S1 R0
                            M581 P2 T2 S0 R0
                            
                            ;Trigger2.g Reset Emergency Stop Button
                            M112
                            M999
                            

                            Then changed to;

                            ;Trigger2.g Reset Emergency Stop Button
                            M999
                            

                            And then again with;

                            ;Trigger2.g Reset Emergency Stop Button
                            M98 P"config.g"
                            
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                            • Dizzwoldundefined
                              Dizzwold @Dizzwold
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                              @dc42 @deckingman @Phaedrux @chrishamm @fcwilt

                              Hi guys,

                              I think with looking around I might be needing to change something in the following which is C++. I know a little C++ (and I mean a little), but I'm certain this is part of of why I need to physically press a Reset Machine radio button ;
                              https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/blob/3.4-dev/src/GCodes/GCodeInput.cpp
                              src/GCodes/GCodeInput.cpp

                              From line 144-219 is regarding the M112 command and how it is reset. I think?
                              Lines 188, 189, 205, 206 prevent a perpetual reset?

                              I've more code (.cpp files), to read, but I think I'm on the right track. I've got some thing to do this afternoon, but will come back.

                              Dizzwold.

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                                Dizzwold @Dizzwold
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                                @Dizzwold

                                RepRapFirmware/src/GCodes/GCodes.cpp
                                

                                Lines 866-872

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @Dizzwold
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                                  @Dizzwold please start a new thread about this because it is off-topic for this thread.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  • Dizzwoldundefined
                                    Dizzwold @Dizzwold
                                    last edited by Dizzwold

                                    Okay, posted as follows;
                                    DWC on Computer Screen RESET MACHiNE from Emergency Stop
                                    https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/34675/dwc-on-computer-screen-reset-machine-from-emergency-stop

                                    @deckingman
                                    Going back to the toolplate bed, I'm going to use the following connector mounted to the bed frame. The idea being that I can disconnect the cables so I can remove the bed (the printer will be in a cupboard, tight on space, so less weight with moving the frame in and out).
                                    Nampn9R4Q8K%G%dD7%2z2g.jpg
                                    Being that this is now a Mains 240Vac bed heater, and I have spare pins on the connector, I'm thinking on the grounds of safety and running some kind of signal loop (5/12v on a relay), so when the connector is disconnected, the break in the (5/12v) signal loop will disconnect the mains with the relay (if I've not already done so), so there is no loose Live Mains cable floating around.
                                    At the moment I have a1 SSR controlling the 240Vac mains bed switched directly by the 24v O/P from the Duet 6HC.
                                    So I'm looking for ideas.
                                    Should I use a mechanical relay in series with the mains from the SSR, or is there a good chance this will weld closed?
                                    Use another SSR, again in series with the switched mains;
                                    Screen Shot 2024-01-14 at 16.57.47.png
                                    Dizzwold.

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