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    • airscapesundefined
      airscapes
      last edited by

      The Z Probe Field in the UI will occasionally read 1000 in red, which I assume is a failure. The process also has died 3/4 done (full bed 11mm spacing) with a error saying the probe reading is inconsistent.. Any clue as what to look for that could be causing the failures and the 1000 code if that is indeed a bad code?? I just put a new BuildTak sheet on and have had the bed heating for well over 2 hours before running so should be stable. Just restarted the process to if it will finish.
      Thanks
      Doug

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @airscapes
        last edited by

        @airscapes

        Typically the reading of 1000 indicates the Z probe is triggered, while a reading of 0 indicates the probe is NOT triggered.

        We would need to see the two Z probe configuration commands (M558 and G31) in regards to the inconsistent readings - it may just be a setting issue.

        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • airscapesundefined
          airscapes @fcwilt
          last edited by

          @fcwilt Thanks for that info, maybe it is just the UI is not fast enough to display that every time or something.
          Here are the parameter strings you requested.
          This probe has been in place for a year I have made other maps and tend to reuse them. This has happened with the failure before complete one other time.

          M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H3 F100 T6000 A3 R1.25 S0.01 B0.
          G31 X0 Y-21 Z1.57 P25 ;

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @airscapes
            last edited by

            @airscapes said in During Bed Probe G29:

            This probe has been in place for a year I have made other maps and tend to reuse them. This has happened with the failure before complete one other time.

            M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H3 F100 T6000 A3 R1.25 S0.01 B0.
            G31 X0 Y-21 Z1.57 P25 ;

            In M558:

            Change the S0.01 to S0.03

            Change the R1.25 to R0

            In G31:

            Change the P25 to P500

            Let us know if those changes help.

            Frederick

            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • airscapesundefined
              airscapes
              last edited by

              Increased the temp to 110 for an hour and ran another map
              Failed with all kinds of error

              25/2024, 10:16:37 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=0.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=11.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=22.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=33.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=44.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=55.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=66.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=77.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=88.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=99.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=110.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=121.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=132.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=143.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=154.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=165.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=176.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=187.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=198.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=198.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=187.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=176.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=165.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=154.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=143.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=132.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=121.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=110.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=99.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=88.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=77.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=66.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=55.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=44.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=33.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=22.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=11.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=0.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              380 points probed, min error -0.225, max error 0.183, mean 0.004, deviation 0.082
              Height map saved to file 0:/sys/heightmap.csv
              Height map saved to file 0:/sys/110C-Fullbed-ABS-ASA.csv
              1/25/2024, 10:16:37 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=0.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=11.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=22.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=33.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=44.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=55.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=66.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=77.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=88.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=99.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=110.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=121.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=132.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=143.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=154.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=165.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=176.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=187.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=198.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=198.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=187.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=176.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=165.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=154.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=143.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=132.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=121.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=110.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=99.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=88.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=77.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=66.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=55.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=44.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=33.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=22.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=11.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=0.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              380 points probed, min error -0.225, max error 0.183, mean 0.004, deviation 0.082
              Height map saved to file 0:/sys/heightmap.csv
              Height map saved to file 0:/sys/110C-Fullbed-ABS-ASA.csv
              1/25/2024, 10:16:36 PM M98 P"0:/macros/Re-Make-Map-110C-ABS-ASA"
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=0.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=11.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=22.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=33.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=44.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=55.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=66.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=77.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=88.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=99.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=110.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=121.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=132.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=143.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=154.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=165.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=176.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=187.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=198.0, Y=235.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=198.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=187.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=176.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=165.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=154.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=143.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=132.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=121.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=110.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=99.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=88.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=77.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=66.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=55.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=44.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=33.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=22.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=11.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=0.0, Y=246.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              380 points probed, min error -0.225, max error 0.183, mean 0.004, deviation 0.082
              Height map saved to file 0:/sys/heightmap.csv
              1/25/2024, 7:46:35 PM M98 P"0:/macros/Re-Make-100C-Fullbed-ABS-ASA"
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=199.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=188.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=177.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=166.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=155.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=144.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=133.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=122.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=111.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=100.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=89.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=78.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=67.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=56.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=45.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=34.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=23.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=12.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=1.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=1.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=12.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=23.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=34.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=45.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=56.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=67.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=78.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=89.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=100.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=111.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=122.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=133.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=144.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=155.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=166.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=177.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=188.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              Warning: Skipping grid point X=199.0, Y=250.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
              399 points probed, min error -0.218, max error 0.187, mean 0.013, deviation 0.079
              Height map saved to file 0:/sys/heightmap.csv
              Height map saved to file 0:/sys/100C-Fullbed-ABS-ASA.csv

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @airscapes
                last edited by

                @airscapes said in During Bed Probe G29:

                because Z probe cannot reach it

                It didn't fail. It's just telling you that your mesh size has areas that aren't physically reachable by the probe. If you want to get rid of the errors, modify your M557 mesh xy positions to take the probe offset into account.

                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                • airscapesundefined
                  airscapes @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @Phaedrux seem odd, as I have never seen that in the past and the following is well within the build plate of 200x250
                  Warning: Skipping grid point X=67.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                  Warning: Skipping grid point X=56.0, Y=239.0 because Z probe cannot reach it

                  How can the probe not reach them. Can this be a connection issue or mechanical adjustment in the probe?
                  Going to run these again today with a cold bed will post results if different.
                  Thanks,
                  Doug

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                  • jay_s_ukundefined
                    jay_s_uk @airscapes
                    last edited by

                    @airscapes your probe offset in Y is -21
                    to probe at Y239, the nozzle needs to be Y260, which is outside your axis limits

                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                    • airscapesundefined
                      airscapes @fcwilt
                      last edited by

                      @fcwilt Thanks, I will look up what I am changing as I do not recall what those do since it was set up over a year ago

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                      • airscapesundefined
                        airscapes @jay_s_uk
                        last edited by airscapes

                        @jay_s_uk Thanks, Yes, I just positioned the machine to one of those points and I now I get it! 🙂 I will update my macros to only include what the probe can reach, or at least make a note to myself to ignore those next time..

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                        • airscapesundefined
                          airscapes @fcwilt
                          last edited by

                          @fcwilt said in During Bed Probe G29:

                          @airscapes said in During Bed Probe G29:

                          This probe has been in place for a year I have made other maps and tend to reuse them. This has happened with the failure before complete one other time.

                          M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H3 F100 T6000 A3 R1.25 S0.01 B0.
                          G31 X0 Y-21 Z1.57 P25 ;

                          In M558:

                          Change the S0.01 to S0.03

                          Change the R1.25 to R0

                          In G31:

                          Change the P25 to P500

                          Let us know if those changes help.

                          Frederick

                          Can you explain the P25 to P500? I probably found P25 for BLTouch in this forum or in an example. What is it actually doing, the dictionary just says trigger value and does not elaborate?
                          Here is one such post
                          PhaedruxPhaedrux MODERATOR 22 Aug 2023, 16:51
                          You really only need to care about the P value when using an analog probe. Just set it as P25 for the BLtouch.

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @airscapes
                            last edited by

                            @airscapes said in During Bed Probe G29:

                            Can you explain the P25 to P500?

                            When triggered my BLTouch probes read 1000. When not triggered they read 0. The setting of P500 is midway between 0 and 1000.

                            It has always worked for me.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • airscapesundefined
                              airscapes @fcwilt
                              last edited by

                              @fcwilt said in During Bed Probe G29:

                              @airscapes said in During Bed Probe G29:

                              Can you explain the P25 to P500?

                              When triggered my BLTouch probes read 1000. When not triggered they read 0. The setting of P500 is midway between 0 and 1000.

                              It has always worked for me.

                              Frederick

                              Interesting, still reads 1000 and 0.. not but not every time it reads a point. I did run a full bed at 100C with no failure to read. Running 110C now. Thanks!

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                The trigger time on a BLtouch is very short and then resets. The DWC display might not always refresh at the right time to catch it.

                                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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