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    • fmaundefined
      fma
      last edited by

      Does the section of your filament vary that much?

      You need to measure the diameter in both directions, as the filament can be oval, and the section remaining the same…

      Frédéric

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      • McAdamundefined
        McAdam
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        @fma:

        Does the section of your filament vary that much?

        You need to measure the diameter in both directions, as the filament can be oval, and the section remaining the same…

        Over a whole 2.5kg spool, it can vary quite a lot.

        Yes, checking for OVALness will be very difficult, I have not thought of a solution to it yet 😞

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        • DjDemonDundefined
          DjDemonD
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          There are some very expensive laser-based diameter and roundness testing devices but they're $1500… Its whether there is a way to do it for a lot less, rotating the laser filament monitor that Duet3D are playing with around the filament?

          Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
          www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
          PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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          • DeltaConundefined
            DeltaCon
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            @McAdam:

            …The idea I've had so far is to use a digital tire gauge caliper, it's inexpensive, fairly accurate, and has a built-in serial output.
            http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Digital-Tyre-Tire-Tread-Brakes-Shoe-Pad-Wear-Depth-Gauge-Caliper-0-25mm-/321762696307
            Reading the output with a small microcontroller (ESP8266) I can then adjust the flowrate.

            Nice idea, but would you press the gauge against the filament using a spring or something? I guess when a whole spool of filament passed this plastic toy, there would be a huge abraded hole in it. 😉

            If you think trial and error is dangerous, try routine. That's even more so!

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
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              I've just had notification that the prototype PCBs for the laser filament sensor are on their way to me from HK! I only ordered them last Sunday.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • Dougal1957undefined
                Dougal1957
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                That's good news David

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                • S1lencerundefined
                  S1lencer
                  last edited by

                  Nice to hear.

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                  • McAdamundefined
                    McAdam
                    last edited by

                    @DeltaCon:

                    @McAdam:

                    …The idea I've had so far is to use a digital tire gauge caliper, it's inexpensive, fairly accurate, and has a built-in serial output.
                    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Digital-Tyre-Tire-Tread-Brakes-Shoe-Pad-Wear-Depth-Gauge-Caliper-0-25mm-/321762696307
                    Reading the output with a small microcontroller (ESP8266) I can then adjust the flowrate.

                    Nice idea, but would you press the gauge against the filament using a spring or something? I guess when a whole spool of filament passed this plastic toy, there would be a huge abraded hole in it. 😉

                    Idea was to have a small pulley attached to the end of the guage, (similar to pulleys found in extruders) so there will be no friction.

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                    • McAdamundefined
                      McAdam
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                      @dc42:

                      I've just had notification that the prototype PCBs for the laser filament sensor are on their way to me from HK! I only ordered them last Sunday.

                      Great news!
                      Is there still space on the Beta List?

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                      • totalitarianundefined
                        totalitarian
                        last edited by

                        Sorry to jump in but what is the advantage of this compared to a simple micro switch?

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                        • adavidmundefined
                          adavidm
                          last edited by

                          @totalitarian:

                          Sorry to jump in but what is the advantage of this compared to a simple micro switch?

                          These monitors track the amount of filament passing through the system. You can use that to tell if the extruder drive is slipping, not just if there is filament present.

                          David has raised the possibility of auto-calibration of e-steps using the system, which would be very neat if it works.

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                          • totalitarianundefined
                            totalitarian
                            last edited by

                            Ah I see, very clever!

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                            • Qdeathstarundefined
                              Qdeathstar
                              last edited by

                              When will either sensor be available. I'm definitely adding a filament sensor to the printer I am building now and rather buy from the makers of the duet than some no-name AliExpress company.

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by

                                I'm sorry, we can't give a date yet. I expect to have a few prototype laser filament sensors by the end of this week, which should put us on track to decide which version to manufacture at the end of this month.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
                                  last edited by

                                  First Laser Filament Monitor prototype.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  • darookeeundefined
                                    darookee
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                                    I'd buy one. Is there already an estimate for the price?

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                                    • whosrdaddyundefined
                                      whosrdaddy
                                      last edited by

                                      Would love to betatest one 😉

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                                      • S1lencerundefined
                                        S1lencer
                                        last edited by

                                        looks promising

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                                        • DADIYundefined
                                          DADIY
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                                          Would look better in Blue. 🙂

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators
                                            last edited by

                                            The production boards will be blue, these are prototypes so I accepted the default PCB options for fastest turnaround and lowest cost.

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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