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Duet Wifi to Ethernet convesion?

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    nophead
    last edited by 27 Apr 2017, 11:27

    Great, thanks.

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      dc42 administrators
      last edited by 27 Apr 2017, 13:36

      You will need a hot air desoldering tool to remove the WiFi module without damaging the PCB. It helps to have an electric hotplate to heat the PCB to 100-125C first so that less hot air is needed, but that isn't essential. The hot air will also melt the solder on nearby components, so take care not to disturb those when removing the WiFi module.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        nophead
        last edited by 1 Jun 2017, 15:13

        Tony,
        I see you now have the Ethernet version for sale but I can't see the module for sale separately.

        David,
        I agree it doesn't look easy to remove the WiFi module. I do have a hot air solder gun and can knock up a hotplate but I have a couple of other tricks for removing SMT parts. Worst case I do know a man with an IR rework station.

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          fcwilt
          last edited by 6 Jan 2017, 17:12 1 Jun 2017, 17:11

          Was there a reason that both the WiFi and Ethernet were NOT made as modules to plug into a common main board?

          Frederick

          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            LeonMF
            last edited by 1 Jun 2017, 21:22

            @fcwilt

            IIRC there was never any original intention to make an Ethernet version. I'm glad they did because switching to Ethernet means I now get reliable connections to my machine whereas the competition with 27 other access points in my building meant I could usually reliably operate the machine for 30 minutes at a time.

            Current: Railcore II ZLT w/Duet 3 and Hemera hot end.
            Retired: Robo3D R1,BI V2.5 Delta updated to BerryBot magnets, bespoke carriages and Duet Ethernet, M3D Promega;

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              T3P3Tony administrators
              last edited by 2 Jun 2017, 01:13

              Chris, I have emailed you

              You are right the original design was for a Wifi, the initial prototype did not even have the headers for an expansion board. There was enough demand to go with an ethernet option but it does not make sense right now to make the wifi pluggable as it would add to the cost without adding an advantage for the vast majority of users.

              www.duet3d.com

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                dbenhart
                last edited by 24 Jan 2018, 16:03

                I'm about to buy a duet and, based on the discussions on the forum, I have a question or two regarding ethernet vs wifi. I'd like to have the option to go with either, and I realize that there's not an option for that right now. It seems to me that it would be easier/more-stable to get the wifi from the ethernet version than the other way around; I can always plug the ethernet cable into a wifi extender. Would it be possible to add make an ethernet add-on board which would work via the expansion header? Someone on another thread mentioned that the Ethernet-daughterboard works via SPI, and I thought that I saw extra SPI pins available on the header.

                Alternatively, what would be involved in creating a wifi-daughterboard? If it's just a question of mounting an ESP8266 to a PCB with the correct headers, I can probably manage that.

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                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by 24 Jan 2018, 16:36

                  @dbenhart:

                  Would it be possible to add make an ethernet add-on board which would work via the expansion header? Someone on another thread mentioned that the Ethernet-daughterboard works via SPI, and I thought that I saw extra SPI pins available on the header.

                  No, because the WiFi module uses a dedicated high speed SPI bus that isn't available on the expansion connector. That high speed bus is needed to get good file upload speeds.

                  @dbenhart:

                  Alternatively, what would be involved in creating a wifi-daughterboard? If it's just a question of mounting an ESP8266 to a PCB with the correct headers, I can probably manage that.

                  Yes, just that. You could use the ESP-12F, the ESP-12S or the ESP-07S. However, a Duet Ethernet may be lacking some parts on the motherboard needed for the wifi interface to work, e.g. U12 and a few resistors. So converting a Duet Ethernet to a WiFi may not be as straightforward as swapping the module over. OTOH a WiFi can be converted to an Ethernet, because the additional motherboard parts do no harm.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    dbenhart
                    last edited by 24 Jan 2018, 17:06

                    David,

                    Thank you for responding so quickly. I'd like to clarify something regarding your first answer.

                    @dc42:

                    No, because the WiFi module uses a dedicated high speed SPI bus that isn't available on the expansion connector. That high speed bus is needed to get good file upload speeds.

                    Does the ethernet-daughterboard also require the high-speed bus, or would the expansion bus support it?

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                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by 24 Jan 2018, 19:46

                      The Ethernet daughter board uses the same high speed SPI bus.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        sqzi
                        last edited by 19 Apr 2018, 17:17

                        Was a seperate ethernet module ever made available as I've not been able to find one for sale?
                        I'd really like to make the change from wireless to wired. Thanks.

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                          elmoret
                          last edited by 19 Apr 2018, 18:25

                          Ethernet module:

                          https://www.filastruder.com/collections/electronics/products/duet-ethernet-module

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                            T3P3Tony administrators @sqzi
                            last edited by 20 Apr 2018, 11:28

                            @sqzi and here:
                            https://www.duet3d.com/DuetEthernet_Module

                            www.duet3d.com

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