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    Mysta
    last edited by 10 Apr 2018, 14:46

    How well do the robotdigg rails work for those that have used them? I believe you used them for yours dc42? Wondering if it's worth converting my 4040 1.5m verticals to 2040+rail.

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      Dougal1957
      last edited by 10 Apr 2018, 14:48

      I use the Robotdigg Stainless rails on mine (Same as DC's I think) and they are very good and not stupidly priced either.

      think they are the 440SUS ones mine are 750 long.

      Doug

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        T3P3Tony administrators
        last edited by T3P3Tony 4 Oct 2018, 14:50 10 Apr 2018, 14:50

        The robotdigg rails have been working well in my delta (copy of David's) they are very slightly louder than Delrin wheels but the fan noise eclipses all that.

        Can you not stick with 4040 and use the rails?

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          Dougal1957
          last edited by 10 Apr 2018, 14:51

          Not if it is the Openbuilds rails as they have 2 slots in each face

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            T3P3Tony administrators @Dougal1957
            last edited by 10 Apr 2018, 14:53

            @dougal1957 I suppose if you pick one slot and use tnuts then the rails will be off center from the motors and the pulleys... Or an interface is needed which is.mkre work than going to 4020.. yeah

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              Dougal1957
              last edited by 10 Apr 2018, 14:54

              Yep that's very true Tony

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                Mysta
                last edited by 10 Apr 2018, 15:34

                Yeah I've tried so hard to find a good way to use rails on 4040 but most of the ways I could think of leave more room for error than just sticking with delrin. Has anyone seen noticeable improvement with the rails over standard v slot delrin?

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                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by dc42 4 Oct 2018, 18:20 10 Apr 2018, 18:19

                  Why not bolt rails to your 4040 extrusions? The rails will be slightly off centre, but apart from a small change in the maximum sideways angle of the arms in one direction (which I don't think will matter at all if you use Haydn's magnetic joints), I don't think it will affect the kinematics - as long as you bolt the rails on the same side of each extrusion, either all to the left, or all to the right.

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                    T3P3Tony administrators @dc42
                    last edited by T3P3Tony 4 Oct 2018, 18:25 10 Apr 2018, 18:25

                    @dc42 I guess because the motor and idler mounts will then be offset by ~10mm?

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                      dc42 administrators @T3P3Tony
                      last edited by 10 Apr 2018, 18:37

                      @t3p3tony said in Robotdigg Rails:

                      @dc42 I guess because the motor and idler mounts will then be offset by ~10mm?

                      That's a very good point, I hadn't thought of it!

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                        Mysta
                        last edited by Mysta 4 Oct 2018, 18:47 10 Apr 2018, 18:39

                        Yeah, and given the varying standards/types of the rails it's hard to find one that has 2 sets of screws 20mm apart and also a block with a 20mm square set of holes.

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                          kraegar
                          last edited by 10 Apr 2018, 20:25

                          I've gotten their rails a few times. They're hit and miss. I've gotten some bent. I've gotten some filled with sludge instead of oil. Most have been usable after a tear down and re-build of the carriages, and polishing the rail itself. (Only one was too bent to bother trying to save)

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                            number40fan
                            last edited by 11 Apr 2018, 04:28

                            I could see some spacers made from acrylic and a laser cutter. Would you have the room to move the carriages ~15mm closer to the bed?

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                              Mysta
                              last edited by 11 Apr 2018, 05:14

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                                Mysta @number40fan
                                last edited by 11 Apr 2018, 05:14

                                @number40fan what do you mean?

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                                  number40fan @Mysta
                                  last edited by 11 Apr 2018, 05:58

                                  @mysta 0_1523426293444_horriblepic.jpg

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                                    number40fan
                                    last edited by 11 Apr 2018, 06:02

                                    If I was on my other computer I could draw you a better picture, but hopefully you get the idea.

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                                      number40fan
                                      last edited by 11 Apr 2018, 06:05

                                      Can't figure out how to edit my posts, but needing to move the carriages closer will really depend on how your setup is now.

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                                        Mysta @number40fan
                                        last edited by Mysta 4 Nov 2018, 15:50 11 Apr 2018, 14:30

                                        @number40fan Yeah I get where you're going, though at that point you could almost just use it as a jig to drill holes in the center really. But introducing potential for error either way. I think at that point I'd rather just buy 2040, vertex and new linear rails. The only real alternative is parallel rails which I'm not sure there's anything that would work in this scenario.

                                        Btw what are the 'best' linear rails from robotdigg? I know they said they can do custom lengths.

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                                          Dougal1957 @Mysta
                                          last edited by 11 Apr 2018, 16:06

                                          @mysta said in Robotdigg Rails:

                                          @number40fan Yeah I get where you're going, though at that point you could almost just use it as a jig to drill holes in the center really. But introducing potential for error either way. I think at that point I'd rather just buy 2040, vertex and new linear rails. The only real alternative is parallel rails which I'm not sure there's anything that would work in this scenario.

                                          Btw what are the 'best' linear rails from robotdigg? I know they said they can do custom lengths.

                                          The std steel ones can vary in Quality like most Chinese Clones but all the Stainless ones that I know about no-one has said there bad!

                                          Such as these MGN12-1500 ones in SUS440C

                                          They may even do double width ones so you could alway ask Derek what he can do for you?

                                          Doug

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