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    • peirofundefined
      peirof
      last edited by peirof

      @dc42

      Think... that this can't use it....

      i'd like check if Z-Probe stops the movements, with calibrate...no stops... but i wat check if, with normal movements, G1, the zprobe stops the head movement. I have cheked, that Z-Probe(Mini Ir) is reconiced by Duet, when i close some object to Mini IR, in DWC, can see how the field Zprobe raises until 46x... but.... when i calibrate the printer... and trigger Zprobe, dont stops the movement....

      For this .... i want check, with G1 flag, in Zprobe is well reconiced...

      Its supposed, with cartesian printer type, if gcode, G1 Z-200 S1, move the head 200 mm downwards, if Zprobe its triggered, the movement must stop. No? but with a Delta printer, this flag S1 don't work.... There is similar flag for a Delta?

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
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        You are confusing an endstop switch with a Z probe. G1 S1 commands are for use with endstop switches, not with a Z probe.

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        • Stealthy_TTundefined
          Stealthy_TT @dc42
          last edited by

          @dc42

          And iirc s2 is for z probe right? I’m not home to check my config for it but that’s what I believe i set for mine.

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
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            To use a Z probe for Z homing, use a G30 command, not a G1 S2 command. See the first item in https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/FAQ.

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            • Stealthy_TTundefined
              Stealthy_TT @dc42
              last edited by

              @dc42

              You are correct but I’m sure you already knew that haha. I have a g30 command in homeall.g

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              • peirofundefined
                peirof
                last edited by peirof

                Hi,

                after some test... i have cheked when i send G30 S-1, and put an obstacle in ZProbe.... *** STOPS THE HEAD MOVEMENT***... this discards a fault to Zprobe, and bad conection....

                IF:

                • When printer power on, ZProbe blinks correct.
                • When by console send G30 S-1, printer head stops with a obstacle
                • When try calibrate, Zprobe DON'T stops printer head movement...

                Why?

                A- Something is wrong in bed.g?
                B- Something is wrong in config.g?
                C- Le falla "lajuntadelatrocola"

                What can i do?

                Latest test are made with Mini IR

                Copy bed.g i am using

                *; bed.g
                ; called to perform automatic delta calibration via G32

                M561 ; clear any bed transform, otherwise homing may be at the wrong height
                G28 ; home the printer

                ; bed.g file for RepRapFirmware, generated by Escher3D calculator
                ; 16 points, 6 factors, probing radius: 140, probe offset (0, 0)
                ; bed.g file for RepRapFirmware, generated by Escher3D calculator
                ; 16 points, 6 factors, probing radius: 125, probe offset (0, 0)

                G30 P0 X-67,5 Y117 Z-9999 H0
                G30 P1 X67,5 Y117 Z-9999 H0
                G30 P2 X135 Y0 Z-9999 H0
                G30 P3 X67,5 Y-117 Z-9999 H0
                G30 P4 X-67,5 Y-117 Z-9999 H0
                G30 P5 X-135 Y0 Z-9999 H0
                G30 P6 X0 Y-90 Z-9999 H0
                G30 P7 X-77,95 Y-45 Z-9999 H0
                G30 P8 X-77,95 Y45 Z-9999 H0
                G30 P9 X0 Y90 Z-9999 H0
                G30 P10 X77,95 Y45 Z-9999 H0
                G30 P11 X77,75 Y-45 Z-9999 H0
                G30 P12 X0 Y45 Z-9999 H0
                G30 P13 X22,5 Y0 Z-9999 H0
                G30 P14 X-22,5 Y0 Z-9999 H0
                G30 P15 X0 Y0 Z-9999 S6*

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                • Stealthy_TTundefined
                  Stealthy_TT @peirof
                  last edited by

                  @peirof said in Configuration Z-Probe:

                  Hi,

                  after some test... i have cheked when i send G30 S-1, and put an obstacle in ZProbe.... *** STOPS THE HEAD MOVEMENT***... this discards a fault to Zprobe, and bad conection....

                  IF:

                  • When printer power on, ZProbe blinks correct.
                  • When by console send G30 S-1, printer head stops with a obstacle
                  • When try calibrate, Zprobe DON'T stops printer head movement...

                  Why?

                  A- Something is wrong in bed.g?
                  B- Something is wrong in config.g?
                  C- Le falla "lajuntadelatrocola"

                  What can i do?

                  Latest test are made with Mini IR

                  Copy bed.g i am using

                  *; bed.g
                  ; called to perform automatic delta calibration via G32

                  M561 ; clear any bed transform, otherwise homing may be at the wrong height
                  G28 ; home the printer

                  ; bed.g file for RepRapFirmware, generated by Escher3D calculator
                  ; 16 points, 6 factors, probing radius: 140, probe offset (0, 0)
                  ; bed.g file for RepRapFirmware, generated by Escher3D calculator
                  ; 16 points, 6 factors, probing radius: 125, probe offset (0, 0)

                  G30 P0 X-67,5 Y117 Z-9999 H0
                  G30 P1 X67,5 Y117 Z-9999 H0
                  G30 P2 X135 Y0 Z-9999 H0
                  G30 P3 X67,5 Y-117 Z-9999 H0
                  G30 P4 X-67,5 Y-117 Z-9999 H0
                  G30 P5 X-135 Y0 Z-9999 H0
                  G30 P6 X0 Y-90 Z-9999 H0
                  G30 P7 X-77,95 Y-45 Z-9999 H0
                  G30 P8 X-77,95 Y45 Z-9999 H0
                  G30 P9 X0 Y90 Z-9999 H0
                  G30 P10 X77,95 Y45 Z-9999 H0
                  G30 P11 X77,75 Y-45 Z-9999 H0
                  G30 P12 X0 Y45 Z-9999 H0
                  G30 P13 X22,5 Y0 Z-9999 H0
                  G30 P14 X-22,5 Y0 Z-9999 H0
                  G30 P15 X0 Y0 Z-9999 S6*

                  Did you also place the code for z probe in homedelta?

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                  • Dougal1957undefined
                    Dougal1957 @peirof
                    last edited by

                    @peirof why is there a * on the s6 param on the last line ?

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                    • peirofundefined
                      peirof
                      last edited by

                      Hi,

                      In homedelta.g... it's mecessary place code? Homing a Delta, there is with endstops, No?...

                      Delta dont use Zprobe for Homing. No?

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                      • Dougal1957undefined
                        Dougal1957 @peirof
                        last edited by

                        @peirof No delta doesn't use the Z Probe for homing.

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                        • peirofundefined
                          peirof @Dougal1957
                          last edited by

                          @dougal1957

                          eee... i have try to put that text in Italic, with forum web app... but dont reconised...

                          the *, there isn't in bed.g...

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                          • Dougal1957undefined
                            Dougal1957 @peirof
                            last edited by

                            @peirof OK it just looked strange!

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              Please test the Z probe with a G30 command as described at https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • Stealthy_TTundefined
                                Stealthy_TT @Dougal1957
                                last edited by Stealthy_TT

                                @dougal1957 said in Configuration Z-Probe:

                                @peirof No delta doesn't use the Z Probe for homing.

                                Makes sense, like I said above I don’t have a delta. Now I know.

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                                • Dougal1957undefined
                                  Dougal1957 @Stealthy_TT
                                  last edited by

                                  @stealthy_tt yeah on a delta it always homes to max Z so the probe can't be any further away from the bed if you tried but if you've never had one then you wouldn't know that fact

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                                  • peirofundefined
                                    peirof @dc42
                                    last edited by

                                    @dc42

                                    Hi... I haved do these test, send by console G30 S1... and zprobes WORKS.. Míni Ir and Bltouch.... But calibrate dont works

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                                    • peirofundefined
                                      peirof
                                      last edited by

                                      What test i can do for discard problems?

                                      So far, from the tests I have done, I think two things can be ruled out:

                                      1- That the z-probes (both BlTouch / Mini IR) are damaged
                                      2- That is a problem of the wiring

                                      It seems an error in the configuration .... but I have checked it several times, and it seems that everything is fine ....

                                      One test I can do is change the firmware, although I do not think that's the case, since the Z-Probes, were working with this.

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by dc42

                                        So bed probing works when you do a single G30 without parameters - correct?

                                        If yes, but the hot end crashes into the bed when you run G32 to auto-calibrate a delta, then the crash is probably occurring not when actually probing, but when the firmware positions the probe at the desired XY coordinates with Z=dive height. The solution is:

                                        1. Check that your tower steps/mm is correct. 200mm of commanded Z movement should produce 200mm of movement.

                                        2. Check that the homed height (H parameter in the M665 command) is equal to the height of the nozzle above the bed when all 3 endstop switches are triggered, to within 10mm or better. Make sure the value in config.g is not being overridden by another M665 command in config-override.g.

                                        3. Until you have determined the correct M665 parameters, increase the dive height (H parameter in M558) to a large value, for example 50mm.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        • peirofundefined
                                          peirof @dc42
                                          last edited by

                                          @dc42 said in Configuration Z-Probe:

                                          the hot end crashes into the bed when you run G32 to auto-calibrate a delta, then the crash is probably occurring not when actually probing, but when the firmware positions the probe at the desired XY

                                          Hi,

                                          until 1 hour ago, i have no test.... but seems to be this

                                          "...Until you have determined the correct M665 parameters, increase the dive height (H parameter in M558) to a large value, for example 50mm...."

                                          thanks Steve....

                                          P.D.: If you come to Valencia (Spain), you are invited to a" Paella Valenciana".☺

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators @peirof
                                            last edited by

                                            @peirof said in Configuration Z-Probe:

                                            P.D.: If you come to Valencia (Spain), you are invited to a" Paella Valenciana".☺

                                            The black rice one? My favourite sort!

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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