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My prints are in mirror, but the axis are good.

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    dc42 administrators
    last edited by 30 Apr 2018, 14:03

    Looking from in front of the printer, if +X moves the print head towards the right and +Y moves the print head towards the rear (or moves the bed towards the front, if the printer has a moving bed) then it is right handed.

    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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      mickey30m
      last edited by mickey30m 30 Apr 2018, 14:35

      okay than its right handed

      but my prints are still in mirror
      https://photos.app.goo.gl/04YhgIgobaxp101N2

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        dc42 administrators
        last edited by 30 Apr 2018, 15:59

        Which way do the axes point in S3D's representation of the bed?

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          mickey30m @dc42
          last edited by 30 Apr 2018, 16:32

          @dc42 https://photos.app.goo.gl/9eERlnDNRr4xtmty1

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            tjb1 @mickey30m
            last edited by 30 Apr 2018, 17:27

            @mickey30m said in My prints are in mirror, but the axis are good.:

            x+ is x axes to the right
            y+ is y axes to the rear

            alt text

            Are you saying that pressing Y+ is moving the bed towards the back of the printer?

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              timcurtis67
              last edited by 30 Apr 2018, 17:49

              Can you post the first 20 or so lines of the gcode program you are trying to run?

              Does the program call out X- moves when they should be X+ moves?

              Or post the model somewhere and someone can try slicing it for you and send you the gcode file to try running. To see if you still have a mirror issue then. That would help rule out the printer firmware.

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                mickey30m
                last edited by 30 Apr 2018, 18:06

                https://www.rsruitersport.nl/Starman_32.gcode
                https://www.rsruitersport.nl/xyzCalibration_cube.stl

                G90
                M82
                M106 S0
                M140 S60
                M190 S60
                M104 S225 T0
                M109 S225 T0
                G92 E0
                G1 E-3.6000 F3000
                G1 Z1.420 F3000
                ; layer 1, Z = 0.22
                T0
                ; tool H0.220 W0.400
                ; skirt
                G1 X71.613 Y105.968 F9600
                G1 Z0.220 F3000
                G1 E0.0000 F900
                G92 E0
                G1 X71.931 Y105.796 E0.0119 F1800
                G1 X73.307 Y105.319 E0.0599
                G1 X73.485 Y105.274 E0.0659
                G1 X74.325 Y105.132 E0.0939

                first lines after the ; code
                from starman_32.gcode

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                  mickey30m @tjb1
                  last edited by 30 Apr 2018, 18:18

                  @tjb1
                  i will post a movie when the printer is done with my print.

                  i need to make a few adjustments to print very damn tastic 😉
                  but the problem with mirror image is difficult to solve 🙂
                  than i want to make the z hop beter , firmware retract.
                  now i do it in the stl (gcode)

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                    timcurtis67 @mickey30m
                    last edited by 30 Apr 2018, 20:06

                    @mickey30m said in My prints are in mirror, but the axis are good.:

                    https://www.rsruitersport.nl/Starman_32.gcode
                    https://www.rsruitersport.nl/xyzCalibration_cube.stl

                    G90
                    M82
                    M106 S0
                    M140 S60
                    M190 S60
                    M104 S225 T0
                    M109 S225 T0
                    G92 E0
                    G1 E-3.6000 F3000
                    G1 Z1.420 F3000
                    ; layer 1, Z = 0.22
                    T0
                    ; tool H0.220 W0.400
                    ; skirt
                    G1 X71.613 Y105.968 F9600
                    G1 Z0.220 F3000
                    G1 E0.0000 F900
                    G92 E0
                    G1 X71.931 Y105.796 E0.0119 F1800
                    G1 X73.307 Y105.319 E0.0599
                    G1 X73.485 Y105.274 E0.0659
                    G1 X74.325 Y105.132 E0.0939

                    first lines after the ; code
                    from starman_32.gcode

                    So by reading one of the first actual print moves (G1 X71.613 Y105.968 F9600) the print head should be going to the RIGHT 71.613mm and the print bed should move TOWARDS you 105.968.

                    If it isn't moving like this then the firmware is configured wrong.

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                      mickey30m @timcurtis67
                      last edited by 30 Apr 2018, 21:27

                      @timcurtis67 IT is moving like this.
                      That's are the problem. But IT prints in mirror.

                      I try already swap cables change config
                      Print another stl but i dont know anymore

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                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by Phaedrux 30 Apr 2018, 21:52

                        Does your printer home Y to the rear or to the front? In Your S3D screenshot it shows all axes homing to min, but is that correct? Your config.g

                        Can you post your homing files?

                        I suspect that you have an axes direction reversed and are correcting for it in the homing files.

                        I would go through your motor configuration and testing again with this as a reference.
                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareCartesianPrinter#Section_Movement_section

                        Ensure that each motor turns the way you want it to and homes in the direction you want it to. It may help if you identify which drive axis is assigned to each Drive Number in the config.

                        This is what you had posted in your config.g. Is that still accurate?

                        ; Drives
                        M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes backwards
                        M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                        M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes backwards
                        M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
                        M569 P4 S0 ; Drive 4 goes forwards (Z2 in the E1)
                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                        M92 X80 Y80 Z400 E420:400 ; Set steps per mm
                        M566 X900 Y900 Z12 E120:12 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                        M203 X4800 Y4800 Z960 E1200:960 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                        M201 X500 Y50 Z500 E250:500 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                        M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800:800 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
                        ;Dual Z
                        M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 ; Two Z motors connected to driver outputs 2 and 4
                        M671 X0:140 Y100:100 S0.5 ; leadscrews at mid left, and mid right
                        ; Axis Limits
                        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                        M208 X200 Y280 Z200 S0 ; Set axis maxima
                        ; Endstops
                        M574 X1 Y2 S0 ; X home to min. Y home to max. NC microswitches.
                        M574 Z1 S1 ; Define Z to use Probe. Home to Min.

                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                          mickey30m @Phaedrux
                          last edited by 30 Apr 2018, 22:54

                          @phaedrux
                          this is how it is now.
                          everything is done like the wiki.

                          ; Drives
                          M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes backwards - x motor
                          M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards - y motor
                          M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes backwards - left z motor
                          M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards - extruder 1
                          M569 P4 S0 ; Drive 4 goes forwards (Z2 in the E1) - right z motor

                          5_1525128618496_homez.g

                          4_1525128618496_homey.g

                          3_1525128618496_homex.g

                          2_1525128618496_homeall.g

                          1_1525128618496_config.g

                          0_1525128618495_bed.g

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                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by 30 Apr 2018, 23:08

                            So it definitely looks like you have it configured for Y max homing, but simplify 3D is set for Y min homing.

                            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                              dc42 administrators @mickey30m
                              last edited by 1 May 2018, 11:42

                              @mickey30m said in My prints are in mirror, but the axis are good.:

                              @dc42 https://photos.app.goo.gl/9eERlnDNRr4xtmty1

                              That's a left-hand coordinate system, which explains your problem. Tell S3D to flip the Y axis.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                mickey30m @dc42
                                last edited by 1 May 2018, 18:37

                                @dc42 that have i changed. Before was IT also in mirror.

                                I Just flip it tot test it. I had it before on right hand

                                But same prints.

                                I will change it now.

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                                  mickey30m
                                  last edited by mickey30m 5 Jan 2018, 18:39 1 May 2018, 18:38

                                  I now slice it with cura the new version.
                                  Default settings.
                                  And Also prints in mirror. With a 0.06 later height so its printing for a long time now ;-).
                                  But a Nice print. But in mirror :')

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                                    mickey30m
                                    last edited by mickey30m 5 Jan 2018, 20:31 1 May 2018, 20:25

                                    okay

                                    just for sure, i take photos from all my settings and download my config file.

                                    https://photos.app.goo.gl/OLfa5DH2pnX90JBi2
                                    0_1525205946994_config.g

                                    when everything is homed i get this in webcontrol
                                    https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZJxTiC9zjXVzdQwL9

                                    Machine Status
                                    Head Position X Y Z
                                    15.0 280.0 14.95
                                    Extruder Drives Drive 0
                                    n/a 0.0
                                    Sensors Vin Z-Probe Fan RPM
                                    11.8 V 0

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                                      dc42 administrators
                                      last edited by 1 May 2018, 20:57

                                      Are you absolutely certain that when you press the X+10 button the head moves to the right, and when you press Y+10 it moves towards the rear of the printer i.e. away from you?

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        mickey30m @dc42
                                        last edited by mickey30m 5 Jan 2018, 21:13 1 May 2018, 21:13

                                        @dc42
                                        https://photos.app.goo.gl/I6pkMGxCEYRMDCmm2

                                        see this video.

                                        first i home twice (because y dont wont go in 1 time) (i ask for this later)

                                        than i push
                                        5 times on X+10
                                        5 times on Y+10
                                        5 times on Z+10

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                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by 1 May 2018, 21:34

                                          You have set your printer up with a left hand coordinate system. If +X is to the right, then +Y must move the head towards the rear relative to the bed. As it is the bed that is moving, +Y should move the bed towards you.

                                          You will need to reverse the direction of the Y motor (M569), change the configuration of the Y endstop from low-end to high-end or vice versa (M574), and change homey.g and homeall.g to home in the opposite Y direction.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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