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Blobs and under extrusion with S3D

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    Phaedrux Moderator @pogo1213
    last edited by Phaedrux 21 Jul 2018, 06:45

    @pogo1213 are you using a Bowden setup or direct drive? 0.5 is quite high for a direct drive.

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      pogo1213
      last edited by 21 Jul 2018, 06:48

      direct but Im running out of possible solutions

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        pogo1213
        last edited by 21 Jul 2018, 07:07

        0.5 was to much but 0.2 has worked pretty well but it hasn't solved it just made it look slightly better

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          pogo1213
          last edited by 21 Jul 2018, 07:27

          I have retraction down to 0.2mm without stringing and no longer leaving blobs just leaving a void immediately after the retraction

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            dc42 administrators @pogo1213
            last edited by 21 Jul 2018, 07:58

            @pogo1213 said in Blobs and under extrusion with S3D:

            I have retraction down to 0.2mm without stringing and no longer leaving blobs just leaving a void immediately after the retraction

            You can use "Extra restart distance" to avoid that.

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              zerspaner_gerd
              last edited by zerspaner_gerd 22 Jul 2018, 22:53

              I also have a larger Z-seam with S3D.
              With Cura I have much smaller nicer ones.

              I could not find any differences between the two gcode files.

              Here are the two gcode files:

              1_1532300304525_S3D.gcode
              0_1532300304525_Cura.gcode

              Board: Duet WiFi 1.03 | Firmware Version: 3.1.1 | WiFi Server Version: 1.23 | Web Interface Version: 3.1.1

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                pogo1213 @zerspaner_gerd
                last edited by 24 Jul 2018, 02:37

                @zerspaner_gerd what type of extruder?

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                  pogo1213
                  last edited by 24 Jul 2018, 03:57

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                    pogo1213
                    last edited by pogo1213 24 Jul 2018, 04:03

                    After a large amount of tweaking Retraction speed and distance (ending with 0.2mm distance and 5000mm/min speed), Pressure advance (0.05) and extra restart distance (ranging from 0 to 0.2, settling on 0) I still have a small seam. Any other suggestions?

                    https://drive.google.com/file/d/176qYIU3DtLloxzfob3uDFD5SV3tU5ere/view?usp=sharing

                    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rS7onyxYcRK3mBEMIRk2-sgEGEXSywZ0/view?usp=sharing

                    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-vrav9f9cwBVXSd_euZr62YmYs5Tix7e/view?usp=sharing

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                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by 24 Jul 2018, 04:20

                      That's a quite good seam actually. You'll never completely eliminate it. Now the trick will be trying different options to hide it in the model. I'm not very familiar with simplify 3ds options but I assume it's similar to slic3r and Cura and gives you the option to try and hide it on the sharpest inside corner or align it to a specific place. It'll depend on the model on which will work best. On angular shapes I find it easier to align it to the sharpest corners. On more organic shapes I usually just align it to a single side.

                      Have you also tested for stringing between travel.moves yet? 0.2mm is fairly low. How about an actual print?

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                        pogo1213
                        last edited by 24 Jul 2018, 04:25

                        I ran a retraction test (4 spikes in a 20x20mm square) with great results at 0.2. I also printed a few parts in pla with no issue, PETG Im bumping it up to 0.5-0.8 to get great results.

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                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by 24 Jul 2018, 04:29

                          I'd say you're good to go then. Print a benchy or some other actual model and see how things look for further tuning.

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                            pogo1213
                            last edited by 29 Jul 2018, 16:09

                            After playing with retraction and pressure advance everything looks good when its not moving between parts. When it is it comes out like this
                            https://drive.google.com/file/d/13OBB-CuOU5PKmGub2PCu8fpjo6xvNbqS/view?usp=sharing

                            Any suggestions?

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                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by 29 Jul 2018, 16:21

                              What is your travel speed in the slicer?
                              In your config.g do you have an M204 command to specify print acceleration and travel acceleration?

                              200mm/s or more for travel moves is probably desirable and acceleration values 4000 to 6000mm/min. Greatly reduces the time available for strings to ooze out.

                              M204 P1000 T5000

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