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    • mrehorstdmdundefined
      mrehorstdmd
      last edited by mrehorstdmd

      120W is good for about 250 cm^2 bed area (about 150mm x 150mm). If the bed is larger than that, you will have to wait a long time for it to heat up. Using 3 cartridges will create three hot spots and very uneven heating unless the bed is made of thick aluminum.

      Which board are you using?

      If the cartridges are rated for 24V and you're using a 24V power supply for the Duet board, connect the cartridges in parallel. It will take 5A total to power the three heaters.

      https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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      • jmlundefined
        jml
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        Thanks for the info. My bed is basically that size, how'd you know?

        I'm using a recent Duet 2, with 24V power supply like you said. The bed is 3mm aluminum, so I think the heating will be closer to uniform. Glass or some other sheet will be placed on top to print on.

        Will 5A be too much for the mosfet or traces? What if I wanted 10A?

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        • mrehorstdmdundefined
          mrehorstdmd
          last edited by mrehorstdmd

          According to: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Hardware_Overview
          "High Power rating: Each stepper driver is capable of 2.8A motor current, currently limited in software to 2.4A. The bed heater channel is specifically designed for high current (18A)"

          The 0.4-0.5W/cm^2 rule of thumb is based on using a heater pad, not cartridges. Heater cartridges are cylindrical, which means very small contact area between the cartridge and a flat plate, which means inefficient heat transfer, which means the cartridge temperature will be quite a bit higher than the plate temperature, or put another way, bed temperature will be quite a bit lower than the cartridge temperature. How will you attach the cartridges to the bed plate in a way that will improve heat transfer, and not be affected by elevated temperatures?

          https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            May I ask, why would you want to do such a thing? Not to dissuade you. Just curious.

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            • dc42undefined
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              • Danalundefined
                Danal
                last edited by Danal

                Physically possible per current capacity of Duet. Operationally inadvisable, for numerous reasons, including hotspots. Plenty of excellent alternatives: https://www.google.com/search?q=150+mm+heated+bed Some of them at price points well below three 24V heater cartridges.

                Detailed example Under US $10, shipped, 24V 200x200

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                • jmlundefined
                  jml @Danal
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                  @danal Thanks for the links. Unfortunately, my bed is not a nice square shape like that. But maybe I will consider reshaping the bed so I can use an off the shelf heating PCB for more uniform heating.

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
                    last edited by

                    What shape is the bed?

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                    • jmlundefined
                      jml @dc42
                      last edited by

                      @dc42 The bed is rectangle shaped. 140 x 100 approx.

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by

                        There are at least two companies (Shenzen Ali Brother Technologies, and Keenovo) who will make a silicone heater to your own size, voltage and power specifications. They don't charge very much for this.

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                        • jmlundefined
                          jml @dc42
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                          @dc42 Oh great, I'll check them out, thanks! Could be useful for other projects as well!

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