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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
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      I use a tool very similar to the one linked and it works alright. A racheting tool would be easier on the hands and give you consistent results though. With that toolkits all about how hard you can squeeze. And if you're doing a lot of crimps can be painful. And depending on the length of boot you might be crimping each 2 or 3 times.

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      • deckingmanundefined
        deckingman @wilriker
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        @wilriker said in Recommendation for Insul. Cable Lug Crimping Tool?:

        Not sure how the correct name for this is in English (can anyone please tell me, because all translation engines give me totally different results 😠) but what I mean are these guys:

        Those are called "Ring Terminals". For future ref, this might help http://thetada.com/wire-terminals-types

        Ian
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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
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          I have a crimp tool from Maplin (now defunct) similar to https://www.rapidonline.com/anvil-av-crmpa-ratchet-action-crimp-tool-for-insulated-terminals-85-0212.

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          • wilrikerundefined
            wilriker @deckingman
            last edited by wilriker

            @deckingman Thanks Ian. 🙂

            I hereby also name you the English Translation Helper of the forum. 😁 After helping someone (I think it was @JoergS5) a few days ago with the you/one/someone thing, now helping me here. 👍

            Am I right in thinking that the category of these parts is then called just terminals? I mean like ring and spade and fork terminals. Or would I then rather refer to wire terminals?

            @dc42 Thanks. This is the same type I had bad luck with but mine was an exceptionally cheap one so that might already make a lot of difference.

            Manuel
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            • deckingmanundefined
              deckingman @wilriker
              last edited by

              @wilriker said in Recommendation for Insul. Cable Lug Crimping Tool?:

              @deckingman Thanks Ian. 🙂

              Am I right in thinking that the category of these parts is then called just terminals? I mean like ring and spade and fork terminals. Or would I then rather refer to wire terminals?

              "Crimp terminals" would probably be the best all encompassing name for them.

              Ian
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              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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              • wilrikerundefined
                wilriker @deckingman
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                @deckingman OK. And I guess I could then also specify it just a tiny bit clearer in saying "insulated crimp terminals", right? Because the insulated and non-insulated need different tools.

                Manuel
                Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
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                • deckingmanundefined
                  deckingman @wilriker
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                  @wilriker said in Recommendation for Insul. Crimp Terminals Crimping Tool?:

                  @deckingman OK. And I guess I could then also specify it just a tiny bit clearer in saying "insulated crimp terminals", right? Because the insulated and non-insulated need different tools.

                  Yes that would be better.

                  Ian
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                  https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                  • Mautundefined
                    Maut
                    last edited by

                    I'm using this one:
                    https://www.amazon.com/Titan-Tools-11477-Ratcheting-Terminal/dp/B0069TRKJ0

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                    • hayseed_byteundefined
                      hayseed_byte
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                      For regular ring/fork terminals, I use Klien Crimpers. My dad bought the ones I use in the early 90's when he was a maintenance technician and now I use them as a maintenance technician. They last forever, create strong crimps and are simple to use. I've never seen anyone use the ratcheting ones for regular crimp terminals.

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                      • sigxcpuundefined
                        sigxcpu
                        last edited by

                        I got this https://www.banggood.com/Paron-JX-D5301-Multifunctional-Ratchet-Crimping-Tool-Wire-Strippers-Terminals-Pliers-Kit-p-1175325.html?rmmds=myorder&cur_warehouse=CN.

                        Tested the Molex KK for Duet only, but other dies look fine, too.

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                        • crynoolundefined
                          crynool
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                          Over the last couple of weeks, I bought a lot (and I mean a lot) of Crimping Tools from Amazon for testing purposes for all kind of Crimp Terminals.
                          I kept some, sent others back, most between 15 and 50 USD.

                          Some are good (the manual ones, give you good control over the crimp), others are really bad

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                          • JoergS5undefined
                            JoergS5 @crynool
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                            @crynool I thought the isolated crimps and the tool which crimps in one step is the best solution. But yesterday the main voltage connection to Duet slipped out. I had unhappy results with crimping yellow connector to solarcable before also.

                            So I will use a manual tool for unisolated crimps in the future with the 2-step procedure, protecting the crimp after I am sure the connection is secure.

                            I bought the PA-09 and PA-20, they seem to be very good.

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                            • crynoolundefined
                              crynool @JoergS5
                              last edited by

                              @joergs5
                              Yup, they are, have them both as well as another one, same company. Missed the Return Window. 😉

                              The yellow in the middle squeezed the wire and damaged the insulation ... nothing shrink tube cannot fix, but ...

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                              • JoergS5undefined
                                JoergS5 @crynool
                                last edited by

                                @crynool funny, the crimp tool which failed so dangerously is also yellow. So it's proven that yellow crimp tools don't work 😉

                                0_1532901640921_crimptool.jpg

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                                • autschundefined
                                  autsch
                                  last edited by autsch

                                  The best for the price (a have it in orange and blue):
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                                  https://de.aliexpress.com/item/Crimpen-zangen-HS-03BC-8-backe-f-r-stecker-rohr-insuated-nicht-isolierende-crimpen-kappe-koaxialkabel/32893154249.html?spm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.276.24853c00aaDUdm
                                  I have the 190mm and 230mm Version.

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                                  • wilrikerundefined
                                    wilriker @hayseed_byte
                                    last edited by

                                    @hayseed_byte These Klein Crimpers look basically like the beefy manual tool I was hoping to find. Will have to see if I can get them at a reasonable price here in Germany, though.

                                    From someone whose opinion I trust very much I also got a recommendation for ratcheting tool BGS 1412.

                                    Manuel
                                    Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                                    with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
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                                    • autschundefined
                                      autsch @wilriker
                                      last edited by autsch

                                      @wilriker why buy in germany, when they are manufactured in China?
                                      It looks like you only want to talk about crimping 😉
                                      Here my recomendation Nr 2, price made in germany:
                                      https://www.bauhaus.info/crimpzangen/knipex-crimp-hebelzange/p/11025709

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                                      • wilrikerundefined
                                        wilriker @autsch
                                        last edited by

                                        @autsch If I would by a ratcheting crimper from Knipex I would prefer the PreciForce one. Only half the price but probably equally good.

                                        Also I do buy from China if I can get the same product - but neither Knipex nor Klein produce in China. And I am tired of cheap tools that don't work, especially if I work with mains voltage. I rarely do but then I don't want to worry about live wires falling out of crimps (as I had with a cheap one already).

                                        But I am still collecting recommendations and will decide a little later.

                                        Manuel
                                        Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                                        with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                                        My Tool Collection

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                                        • hayseed_byteundefined
                                          hayseed_byte @wilriker
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                                          @wilriker said in Recommendation for Insul. Crimp Terminals Crimping Tool?:

                                          Also I do buy from China if I can get the same product - but neither Knipex nor Klein produce in China. And I am tired of cheap tools that don't work, especially if I work with mains voltage.

                                          Heh, even though they say they're not insulated because they don't have the rubber coating on the shaft, my Klein 6-in-1 has saved my life more than once. The one I use at work has a pretty gnarly burned spot on the shaft.

                                          Knipex makes good stuff, too. Germany made is usually better than USA Made, I gotta admit. Been eyeing some Knipex dykes lately, myself.

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                                          • autschundefined
                                            autsch @wilriker
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                                            @wilriker, if you have to crimp thousands of connectors, how I had in RocknRoll and Soundstudio business, Knipex is worth the money.
                                            How many connectors do you have to crimp a day?

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