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    Phaedrux Moderator
    last edited by 3 Aug 2018, 20:43

    Have you verified that the trace has been cut to enable 3.3v logic?

    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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      RafB
      last edited by 3 Aug 2018, 21:23

      I really understand nothing.

      Yes I think it's good to cut
      I have 2 bltouch, and it does not behave in the same way! see video
      https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/06gCZdGWIARZd1VsShhu1ZEaw#IMG_3247
      https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0bQvdwlJunN4JS6AY0zxSuV4A#IMG_3248
      The, I despair, can I back down version (2.01 to 1.20) easily? That way I can apply the tutorial and especially print ...
      There is the option to change sensors but the IR does not seem to me well suited with a glass plate. I often use geckotek ...

      It remains the options I send videos (I am bad in English and google not always very good for the technique) and I await your analysis. I thank you for that again.

      A +

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        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by 3 Aug 2018, 21:56

        The tutorial should apply the same regardless of firmware version. But if you absolutely want to downgrade it should be as easy as uploading the older firmware. You may also need to upload the older wifi server and DWC files as well. But ideally I think you should try to get it working with 2.01 due to the other bug fixes and enhancements.

        I would suggest going over the wiring very carefully and checking for any loose crimps or broken wires. Check for continuity with a multimeter. Double check you are using the right pins. Recut the trace.

        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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          RafB
          last edited by 4 Aug 2018, 07:07

          Hello,

          You were right one of the bltouch had bad contact. I solved this problem.
          But DC42's advice to remove M98 (deployprobe.g and retractprobe.g) does not solve the problem.
          I always have the Bltouch that starts the probing and after some probing (it's random, never the same point), it blinks.

          Movie
          https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/03A69h-sZ0sVq0HzIqz-bcx9Q#IMG_3251

          Console G-code
          09: 02: 51Error: Z probes already probed before probing move started
          09: 02: 50Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          Warning: Skipping grid point (-45.0, -135.0) because Z probe can not reach it
          Warning: Skipping grid point (0.0, -135.0) because Z probe can not reach it
          Warning: Skipping grid point (45.0, -135.0) because Z probe can not reach it
          09: 02: 49Error: Z probes already probed at start of probing move
          09: 02: 48Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          09: 02: 47Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          09: 02: 47Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          09: 02: 46Error: Z probes already probed at start of probing move
          09: 02: 45Error: Z probes already probed at start of probing move
          09: 02: 44Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          09: 02: 42G32
          Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          09: 02: 17M98 P "0: / macros / BLtouch / Alarm Release and Push-Pin UP"
          09: 01: 24Error: Z probes already probed before probing move started
          09: 01: 22Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          Warning: Skipping grid point (-45.0, -135.0) because Z probe can not reach it
          Warning: Skipping grid point (0.0, -135.0) because Z probe can not reach it
          Warning: Skipping grid point (45.0, -135.0) because Z probe can not reach it
          09: 01: 22Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          09: 01: 21Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          09: 01: 20Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          09: 01: 19Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          09: 01: 18Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          09: 01: 17Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          09: 01: 16Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          09: 01: 15Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          09: 01: 13Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          09: 01: 12Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          09: 01: 10Error: Z probes already probed at start of probing move
          09: 00: 58G32
          09: 00: 55Connection established!
          08: 56: 41Déconnecté.
          08: 55: 21M98 P "0: / macros / BLtouch / Alarm Release and Push-Pin UP"
          08: 55: 03G28
          08: 54: 33Error: Z probes already probed before probing move started
          08: 54: 32Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          Warning: Skipping grid point (-45.0, -135.0) because Z probe can not reach it
          Warning: Skipping grid point (0.0, -135.0) because Z probe can not reach it
          Warning: Skipping grid point (45.0, -135.0) because Z probe can not reach it
          08: 54: 31Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          08: 54: 30Error: Z probes already probed at start of probing move
          08: 54: 29Error: Z probes already probed at start of probing move
          08: 54: 28Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          08: 54: 27Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          08: 54: 27Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          08: 54: 26Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          08: 54: 24Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          08: 54: 22G32
          Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          08: 53: 43G28
          08: 53: 39Connection established!
          08: 51: 14Déconnecté.
          08: 51: 05G28
          08: 50: 44Error: Z probes already triggered before probing
          08: 50: 43Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          Warning: Skipping grid point (-45.0, -135.0) because Z probe can not reach it
          Warning: Skipping grid point (0.0, -135.0) because Z probe can not reach it
          Warning: Skipping grid point (45.0, -135.0) because Z probe can not reach it
          08: 50: 42Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          08: 50: 41Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          08: 50: 40Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          08: 50: 39G32
          Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
          08: 49: 38G28
          08: 49: 35Connection established!
          08: 49: 31Déconnecté.
          08: 48: 46G28
          08: 48: 40Connection established!
          08: 48: 33Loading full page!

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            dc42 administrators
            last edited by 4 Aug 2018, 09:10

            Check the Z probe reading in the web interface when the BLTouch is deployed but the pin has not been pushed up. It should be zero. If it is about 1000, then either you have not selected the correct mode in M558 (it should be P9, and you should not have the I1 parameter), or there is a bad connection between the Duet and the white wire of the BLTouch.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              RafB
              last edited by 4 Aug 2018, 13:13

              Everything works perfect for bltouch with up, down, reset and self test macros.
              But as soon as I go on an autocalibration the bltouch flashes on randomly on the 1st probing.

              Do not do M561 and or G32 S2 for "reset" what is already register?

              What information can I give you to simplify your expertise?

              https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0C39MWPjsBWmhMMAeG79nucpQ#IMG_3252

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                dc42 administrators @RafB
                last edited by 4 Aug 2018, 14:03

                @rafb said in Configurator BLTouch bug:

                Everything works perfect for bltouch with up, down, reset and self test macros.

                Does that mean that you get the correct Z probe reading, or haven't you checked it?

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  RafB
                  last edited by 4 Aug 2018, 14:38

                  Sorry, I'm French and I do not understand what you mean.

                  It has been several times that I turn on my printer and that communication is impossible. the wifi light is lit. It is very hot in France (31 in my garage) but I have the original Tevo fan that works.

                  I do not understand why the bltouch works perfectly by sending the up, down, reset and selftest commands individually but when I run the auto calibration, the bltouch does some probing and can not finish the autocalibration.

                  I do not know what to do and I just have to hope that you will find what I did wrong or forgot to do.

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                    dc42 administrators @dc42
                    last edited by 4 Aug 2018, 14:51

                    I mean this:

                    @dc42 said in Configurator BLTouch bug:

                    Check the Z probe reading in the web interface when the BLTouch is deployed but the pin has not been pushed up. It should be zero. If it is about 1000, then either you have not selected the correct mode in M558 (it should be P9, and you should not have the I1 parameter), or there is a bad connection between the Duet and the white wire of the BLTouch.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      RafB
                      last edited by 4 Aug 2018, 15:55

                      Ok I understand what you mean now but google must translate poorly what I tell you.

                      When there is no i1 in deployprobe.g and retractprobe.g to do auto-calibration or macros, the bltouch commands do not work.

                      I checked all my connector and crimp (welded) to the multimeter, no problem.

                      After some probing, the bltouch goes up and down which makes it blink.

                      //Console G-code after auto-calibration
                      17:45:50Déconnecté.
                      17:45:16Error: Z probe already triggered before probing move started
                      17:45:15Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
                      Warning: Skipping grid point (-45.0, -135.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                      Warning: Skipping grid point (0.0, -135.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                      Warning: Skipping grid point (45.0, -135.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                      17:45:14Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
                      17:45:13Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
                      17:45:12G32
                      Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
                      17:44:20G28
                      17:44:08Connection établie!
                      17:44:06Déconnecté.
                      17:43:23M98 P"0:/macros/Calibration/2- Calcul Z"
                      Stopped at height 1.927 mm
                      17:42:52G30 S-1
                      Stopped at height 1.927 mm

                      0_1533397798352_Capture d’écran 2018-08-04 à 17.33.59.png
                      0_1533397764099_Capture d’écran 2018-08-04 à 17.34.28.png

                      //Config.g
                      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
                      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                      ;
                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Thu Aug 02 2018 09:35:23 GMT+0200 (CEST)

                      ; General preferences
                      G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
                      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves

                      ;*** The homed height is deliberately set too high in the following - you will adjust it during calibration.
                      M665 R155 L397.19 B155 H520 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                      M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them

                      ; Drives
                      M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                      M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                      M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
                      M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                      M92 X80 Y80 Z80 E417.22 ; Set steps per mm
                      M566 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E1200 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                      M203 X18000 Y18000 Z18000 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                      M201 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1000 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                      M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1200 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                      ; Axis Limits
                      M208 Z0 S1 ; Set minimum Z

                      ; Endstops
                      M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S1 ; Set active high endstops

                      ; Z-Probe
                      M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; Disable heater on PWM channel for BLTouch
                      M558 P9 H5 F120 T6000 ; Set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                      G31 P25 X0 Y20 Z1.927 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                      M557 R150 S45 ; Define mesh grid

                      ; Heaters
                      M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                      M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                      M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                      M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                      ; Fans
                      M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                      M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                      M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H0 T50 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                      ; Tools
                      M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                      ; Automatic power saving
                      M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; Set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

                      ; Custom settings
                      ;M591 DO C3 P2 E6.0

                      M501

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                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by 4 Aug 2018, 19:52

                        From your videos it looks like the probe pin is sticking. Earlier you said you had tried to repair it by taking the pin out?

                        Try this, put the probe into self test where it deploys and retracts the pin repeatedly and leave it running for a long while. The probe should continue indefinitely. If it gets stuck and goes into error that means that the pin is likely getting stuck. If this is the case you may need to replace the probe. The newer versions of the BLTouch are quite improved over the older style. The pins are now plastic for instance. Given the cost it may be worth just replacing it.

                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by 4 Aug 2018, 19:58

                          You still haven't answered my original question: is the Z probe reading shown by DWC zero (or close to zero) when the probe is not triggered?

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            RafB @Phaedrux
                            last edited by 4 Aug 2018, 20:58

                            @phaedrux

                            I launched the selt-test at 22:44 and at 22:57 it was still running. So it works well in the void.

                            Yes I think I have this option to buy a newer, newer bltouch that will be the least expensive. But there is also buy the complete delta kit Duet3D Smart Effector. this will allow me to be more precise from what it says on any bed surface.

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                              RafB @dc42
                              last edited by 4 Aug 2018, 21:06

                              @dc42

                              what is DWC?
                              0_1533416774618_Capture d’écran 2018-08-04 à 23.04.38.png

                              Z-probe remains always displayed at 0 pin down, pin up and selt-test.

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                                RafB
                                last edited by 4 Aug 2018, 21:11

                                I just launched the auto calib, it was 2 probes and the sensor has increased to 1000.

                                0_1533417017487_Capture d’écran 2018-08-04 à 23.09.24.png

                                G-code Console after bug sensor
                                23:08:49Error: Z probe already triggered before probing move started
                                23:08:47Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
                                Warning: Skipping grid point (-45.0, -135.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                Warning: Skipping grid point (0.0, -135.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                Warning: Skipping grid point (45.0, -135.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                23:08:47Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
                                23:08:46Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
                                23:08:45Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
                                23:08:44Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
                                23:08:43Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
                                23:08:43Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
                                23:08:41Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
                                23:08:40Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
                                23:08:38G32
                                Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move

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                                  RafB
                                  last edited by 5 Aug 2018, 08:11

                                  it's still weird to have a 2 bltouch that does not work? it is not a problem of speed of retraction of the bltouch and or the speed of mounting of the head too slow?

                                  in a first time this model will go?

                                  https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0748FJ48N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_U8QzBb19A3CF4

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                                    RafB
                                    last edited by 5 Aug 2018, 12:09

                                    I exceeded my support credit or tried to understand what I'm doing wrong? I'm still at the same point, impossible to print. I have an old-fashioned configuration solution without bltouch?

                                    Thanks you

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                                      RafB
                                      last edited by 5 Aug 2018, 12:28

                                      What is the correct version of the web server? Why I have 1.21 RC4 after the update?

                                      Thank you

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                                        BPisLife @RafB
                                        last edited by 5 Aug 2018, 12:32

                                        @rafb do you have the deployprobe.g and retractprobe.g files in the same file location as the config file?

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                                          RafB
                                          last edited by 5 Aug 2018, 12:34

                                          Yes,

                                          0_1533472476045_Capture d’écran 2018-08-05 à 14.33.53.png

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