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    • hevilpundefined
      hevilp
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      But where do the screws go?

      I just ordered the Orion kit and hope your mount will work and yes, of course I will tweak if its needed.

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      • keyz182undefined
        keyz182 @hevilp
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        @hevilp It screws into the part that @Moriquendi linked.

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        • hevilpundefined
          hevilp
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          I think you mean the screws on the top of the heatsink?

          The aquacoolside got only 4 screws wholes on the back, so I'm need to mount it in anyway in the back. There are no screw wholes on the top.

          And, I got the water tubes, I think they will not go through the Orion..

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          • keyz182undefined
            keyz182 @hevilp
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            @hevilp ah, ok. Just looked up the Aqua, didn't realise the pipes came out the top. I don't believe that it can be made to work with the designs here, and I'm not even sure it would work with the Orion at all, as the pipes are right where the piezo would be.

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            • hevilpundefined
              hevilp
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              But, the Orion needs a piezo disc right? So independent from the way of mount the it is a better Version of the v1.1?

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              • keyz182undefined
                keyz182
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                Orion has a pair of piezos mounted onto the PCB, rather than being on a wire

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                • hevilpundefined
                  hevilp
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                  Okay, is possible to create a mount with vertical orientation? Like the one we have not so good experience with?

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                  • keyz182undefined
                    keyz182 @hevilp
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                    @hevilp probably, though I'm not sure if the Orion would be any advantage over the other board there.

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                    • Moriquendiundefined
                      Moriquendi @hevilp
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                      @hevilp I'm developing a board similar to the Orion that might be more suitable for the kind of vertical orientation you're talking about. It's currently being tested, if you want to cancel your Orion order just contact me through the store.

                      Idris

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                      • hevilpundefined
                        hevilp
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                        @Moriquendi , I used the contact Form on your site and wrote my wish to cancel the order, please do not ship it out and refund the money. Thanks

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                        • Moriquendiundefined
                          Moriquendi @hevilp
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                          @hevilp Order cancelled and money refunded.

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                          • tjb1undefined
                            tjb1
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                            I see that DJDemonD is traveling, is it still possible to buy the Orion?

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                            • Moriquendiundefined
                              Moriquendi
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                              Absolutely, I took over running Precision Piezo in January though he still offers his help and advice when he's available. The Orion is available on the Precision Piezo website here

                              Idris

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                              • 3dmntbighkerundefined
                                3dmntbighker
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                                My Orion groove mount snapped on Monday. I have ordered one made in ABS to get me printing again. But what are the OEM mounts made of? And would Taulman 910 be one of the best materials to print the parts in? I plan to print full sets of spare parts, as I should have in the first place.

                                Since installing my Orion I have had a resonance at various points above the print surface. It seems to be an interaction between various parts of my CoreXY. It feels like it will shake things loose eventually somewhere, but so far it's not super obvious in the actual print. It's quite loud, and I could see it causing bed adhesion issues since the frequency seems perfect for shaking the parts loose from the bed. If the resonance originates in the Precision Piezo assembly like I think it does, this could be an achilles heel of this type of sensor.

                                Scratch built CoreXY with Maestro
                                Heavily modified Ender 3 with Maestro
                                MPCNC work in progress with Duet WiFi

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                                • burtoogleundefined
                                  burtoogle @3dmntbighker
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                                  @3dmntbighker said in New Product Release - Precision Piezo Orion:

                                  My Orion groove mount snapped on Monday. I have ordered one made in ABS to get me printing again. But what are the OEM mounts made of? And would Taulman 910 be one of the best materials to print the parts in? I plan to print full sets of spare parts, as I should have in the first place.

                                  Since installing my Orion I have had a resonance at various points above the print surface. It seems to be an interaction between various parts of my CoreXY. It feels like it will shake things loose eventually somewhere, but so far it's not super obvious in the actual print. It's quite loud, and I could see it causing bed adhesion issues since the frequency seems perfect for shaking the parts loose from the bed. If the resonance originates in the Precision Piezo assembly like I think it does, this could be an achilles heel of this type of sensor.

                                  Here's my modified Orion groove mount that overcame some difficulties that I had with the original. It's somewhat beefier than the original. I printed the replacement in PLA and it hasn't broken yet.

                                  orion-groove-mount.zip

                                  This forum is damn annoying that it won't let you attach stl or zip files!

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                                  • burtoogleundefined
                                    burtoogle
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                                    • 3dmntbighkerundefined
                                      3dmntbighker @burtoogle
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                                      @burtoogle said in New Product Release - Precision Piezo Orion:

                                      Here's my modified Orion groove mount that overcame some difficulties that I had with the original. It's somewhat beefier than the original. I printed the replacement in PLA and it hasn't broken yet.

                                      Thanks, I'll try a couple of materials. At the very least the frequency of the resonance should change 😉 I plan to enclose the printer, so PLA is probably not the best choice.

                                      Scratch built CoreXY with Maestro
                                      Heavily modified Ender 3 with Maestro
                                      MPCNC work in progress with Duet WiFi

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                                      • Moriquendiundefined
                                        Moriquendi
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                                        The OEM mounts are made of ABS, layer adhesion is the critical factor and generally I think PLA has better layer adhesion than ABS, I keep tweaking the design and slicing it to try and improve the strength of the parts.

                                        If you run into resonance issues perhaps try changing your print speed? My printer sounded terrible at 6000mm/m (travel) speed but smooth as anything at 7000.

                                        Idris

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                                        • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                          T3P3Tony administrators @burtoogle
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                                          @burtoogle said in New Product Release - Precision Piezo Orion:

                                          This forum is damn annoying that it won't let you attach stl or zip files!

                                          stls should now work.. zips i would not be so happy about..

                                          www.duet3d.com

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                                          • 3dmntbighkerundefined
                                            3dmntbighker @Moriquendi
                                            last edited by 3dmntbighker

                                            @moriquendi said in New Product Release - Precision Piezo Orion:

                                            The OEM mounts are made of ABS, layer adhesion is the critical factor and generally I think PLA has better layer adhesion than ABS, I keep tweaking the design and slicing it to try and improve the strength of the parts.

                                            If you run into resonance issues perhaps try changing your print speed? My printer sounded terrible at 6000mm/m (travel) speed but smooth as anything at 7000.

                                            Idris

                                            Thanks for the pointers and info. I'll let you know how the Taulman 910 works posting here. The parts I ordered are white ABS. The groove mount seems like a good fit in my BondTech BMG, but I think there is room for improvement. Though I don't think that interface is the source of the resonance.

                                            edit:

                                            Used the ABS part to print your part in 910. 910 was impossible to print until I used glue stick on the PEI. And 910 warps like crazy, but it's a really good material from what I can tell. Your part seems to have a LOT less resonance so far. Apparently Taulman has Nylons with carbon fiber that supposedly helps the warping.

                                            edit2:
                                            Actually your part seems to have eliminated all of the resonance.... yay!!!!

                                            Bravo sir.

                                            Scratch built CoreXY with Maestro
                                            Heavily modified Ender 3 with Maestro
                                            MPCNC work in progress with Duet WiFi

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