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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      Looks like you have a bad connection in the thermistor wiring, because it gave you the "thermistor is open circuit" error message and put heater 0 in the Fault state.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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      • ngwpowerundefined
        ngwpower
        last edited by ngwpower

        Thank You dc42, I did this for resistance at the blocks, themosistors are brand new and by applying forced air on the bulbs I get a temperatur rise.
        0_1534263680012_Bed & Nozzle errors 8-14.jpg
        Test with a S1141 car light bulb @18.4 watts used to load the:

        1. Hot bed no light – M140 S60
        2. E0 extruder no light – G10 POS215
        3. E1 extruder no light. - G10 POS215
          Apparently I don't know why this is happening.
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        • elmoretundefined
          elmoret
          last edited by elmoret

          Your heated bed is working fine, check the first post where it is showing 61.2C.

          You'll need valid thermistor readings before the board will let you heat the associated hotend. This is for safety reasons.

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          • ngwpowerundefined
            ngwpower @elmoret
            last edited by

            @elmoret Thank You not very savy with all this interlocking functions. Gratefull you gents have better understanding of the workings. Rather frustrated with this adventure, long gone is the fun of printing.

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
              last edited by dc42

              The key is the status shown in the Heater column. If it shows "Fault" then the firmware will refuse to operate the heater until the fault is reset by sending M562. Your original post shows the temperature of heater 0 (blue in the chart) going off scale, which will put heater 0 in the Fault state.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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              • ngwpowerundefined
                ngwpower
                last edited by

                Have tried all suggestions and read this "Tuning the heater temperature control" I have a brand new out of the package thermistor and 12 V D heat core, they are wired directly to the appropriate blocks and still get Faults. I believe this board is one in a thousand fail.0_1534294810127_Heater error 8-14-18.jpg Here are some shots of what is going on. I removed the avaiation plug and used a connector strip to the Hot end assembly. Have contacted the retailer and they are watching this post for a clue of what is not working!

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                • elmoretundefined
                  elmoret
                  last edited by elmoret

                  @ngwpower said in No dc voltage to the hot end blocks:

                  I have a brand new out of the package thermistor and 12 V D heat core, they are wired directly to the appropriate blocks

                  Can you post some clear, well lit photos of this, please? Now your screenshots aren't showing any temperatures at all, whereas previously they were showing correct temperatures. This leads me to believe the board is not to blame here, since the board hasn't changed (but the wiring has).

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @ngwpower
                    last edited by dc42

                    @ngwpower said in No dc voltage to the hot end blocks:

                    Have tried all suggestions and read this "Tuning the heater temperature control" I have a brand new out of the package thermistor and 12 V D heat core, they are wired directly to the appropriate blocks and still get Faults. I believe this board is one in a thousand fail.0_1534294810127_Heater error 8-14-18.jpg Here are some shots of what is going on. I removed the avaiation plug and used a connector strip to the Hot end assembly. Have contacted the retailer and they are watching this post for a clue of what is not working!

                    Your temperatures are reading 2000C. You won't be able to operate or tune the heaters until you fix that. The tuning error message is telling you that the temperature sensor is not connected.

                    BTW you appear to be using heater 0 for the extruder and heater 1 for the bed. That is the opposite way round from usual. Is there a reason why you chose that?

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                    • ngwpowerundefined
                      ngwpower
                      last edited by ngwpower

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                      • ngwpowerundefined
                        ngwpower @elmoret
                        last edited by

                        @elmoret I posted this earlier. " I have a brand new out of the package thermistor and 12 V DC heat core, they are wired directly to the appropriate blocks and still get Faults. Why is this not enough. I know you are attempting to help, just not sure about how!

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                        • ngwpowerundefined
                          ngwpower @dc42
                          last edited by

                          @dc42 "you appear to be using heater 0 for the extruder and heater 1 for the bed." The instructions on RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool is rather confusing for me. Never been to college for this type of engineering. I just guessed at the choices.
                          I apparently checked the box for "Assign bed heater to first nozzle". Maybe why its like this.

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators @ngwpower
                            last edited by

                            @ngwpower said in No dc voltage to the hot end blocks:

                            I apparently checked the box for "Assign bed heater to first nozzle". Maybe why its like this.

                            Yes, that would explain it. I suggest you generate a new config.g file with that not checked.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                            • ngwpowerundefined
                              ngwpower @dc42
                              last edited by

                              @dc42 I have done it and loaded the Zip file. Applied and reconnected to the eb Control - still get a fault heater 1. Darn it. Not an engineer, could the blocks be a cold solder to the board? Have seen this with other boards that were bad.

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                              • ngwpowerundefined
                                ngwpower
                                last edited by

                                Went to the RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool site and tried riprapfirmware. Still gettings faults in heater 1. Maybe I should return this part of just junk it. Not worth the time I have spent on it.

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Can you post your config.g? and can you describe how you have things wired?

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators @ngwpower
                                    last edited by

                                    @ngwpower said in No dc voltage to the hot end blocks:

                                    @dc42 I have done it and loaded the Zip file. Applied and reconnected to the eb Control - still get a fault heater 1. Darn it. Not an engineer, could the blocks be a cold solder to the board? Have seen this with other boards that were bad.

                                    Are you getting a sensible temperature reading on heater 1 now?

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                    • ngwpowerundefined
                                      ngwpower @dc42
                                      last edited by

                                      @dc42 No nothing has changed on heater faults, I hooked up the Keenovo pad with a module, seperated power source. It also is giving me Faults. 0_1534369323519_8-15 Faults on screen.jpg

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                                      • ngwpowerundefined
                                        ngwpower @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by

                                        @phaedrux Have a hard time explaining things. I use pictures to guide myself in these situations. Removed the aircraft fitting from the E connections " Thermistor, fans, heater cartridge and placed them on a connector strip. P.S. the heat bed is going to default also.
                                        Here is the code.
                                        ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
                                        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                        ;
                                        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Wed Aug 15 2018 13:06:04 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

                                        ; General preferences
                                        G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
                                        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                        M555 P1 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like RepRapFirmare

                                        ; Network
                                        M550 PRiprapfirware ; Set machine name
                                        M552 S1 ; Enable network
                                        ;*** Access point is configured manually via M587
                                        M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
                                        M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
                                        M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

                                        ; Drives
                                        M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                                        M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                                        M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
                                        M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
                                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                                        M92 X80 Y80 Z4000 E420 ; Set steps per mm
                                        M566 X900 Y900 Z12 E120 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                        M203 X6000 Y6000 Z180 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                        M201 X500 Y20 Z250 E250 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                        M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                        ; Axis Limits
                                        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                                        M208 X300 Y300 Z400 S0 ; Set axis maxima

                                        ; Endstops
                                        M574 X1 Y1 S0 ; Set active low endstops

                                        ; Z-Probe
                                        M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000 ; Disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                        M557 X15:285 Y15:285 S20 ; Define mesh grid

                                        ; Heaters
                                        M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                        M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                        M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                        M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                                        ; Fans
                                        M106 P0 S1 I1 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        M106 P1 S1 I1 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                        M106 P2 S1 I1 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                                        ; Tools
                                        M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
                                        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                                        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                        ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled

                                        ; Custom settings are not configured

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                                        • fcwiltundefined
                                          fcwilt
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi,

                                          How about photo showing your thermistor connections?

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                          • ngwpowerundefined
                                            ngwpower
                                            last edited by

                                            Thank You
                                            All for attempting to help. I have decided to send it back and let Filiastruder determine what if ant thing is wrong with this board. Contrary to the opinion on here the board is defective and time will tell if I am right or wrong.

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