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    • BLVundefined
      BLV
      last edited by BLV

      so i am not the only one who is getting this behavior
      same situation here, it deploys randomly right after probing with the 2.02rc2
      on sunday i'll get my bud touch sensor just to make sure its not a bad one.
      cables are fine, no shorts or disconnection.
      thought about adding some delay or fast dropping the bed before it will bump it.

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      • tjb1undefined
        tjb1
        last edited by tjb1

        I had this same issue with a BLTouch from TriangleLab. It would deploy, touch the bed, retract, and then shoot back out and retract again. It also fell down in the middle of the print several times causing it to keep catching on the print and if it didn't fall all the way it would error out. I tried rewiring it (including pulling the wires away from the stepper/heater wires) and even mode 9 with no success. I don't know if it's because it's a clone or not but I took it off and switched to piezo.

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          This behaviour was common when using earlier firmwares, but only caused a problem if the Z travel speed of the probe after triggering was low. It was fixed in firmware 2.01. See https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/blob/dev/WHATS_NEW.md.

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          • tjb1undefined
            tjb1
            last edited by

            Would this include it randomly falling in the middle of a print or is that a different issue?

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            • genghisnico13undefined
              genghisnico13 @tjb1
              last edited by

              @tjb1 Perhaps you could try unscrewing the top screw (core) a little, I never experienced that issue, but maybe this helps.

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @tjb1
                last edited by

                @tjb1 said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

                Would this include it randomly falling in the middle of a print or is that a different issue?

                No, that would be a different issue.

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                • BLVundefined
                  BLV @genghisnico13
                  last edited by

                  @genghisnico13 said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

                  @tjb1 Perhaps you could try unscrewing the top screw (core) a little, I never experienced that issue, but maybe this helps.

                  yesterday i cleaned, magnetized and replaced the heatshrink but its still deploying randomly .

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                  • bugmundefined
                    bugm @dc42
                    last edited by bugm

                    @dc42 said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

                    This behaviour was common when using earlier firmwares, but only caused a problem if the Z travel speed of the probe after triggering was low. It was fixed in firmware 2.01. See https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/blob/dev/WHATS_NEW.md.

                    I am running the latest 2.02RC2 version

                    @blv said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

                    @genghisnico13 said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

                    @tjb1 Perhaps you could try unscrewing the top screw (core) a little, I never experienced that issue, but maybe this helps.

                    yesterday i cleaned, magnetized and replaced the heatshrink but its still deploying randomly .

                    thanks,this morning i bought a shrink and replaced it too and yet it still doing it.
                    its functioning flawlessly in test mode but while probing its still deploying twice.

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by

                      Please run M558 and check that it reports you are using Z probe mode 9.

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                      • bugmundefined
                        bugm @dc42
                        last edited by bugm

                        @dc42 said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

                        Please run M558 and check that it reports you are using Z probe mode 9.

                        Thank you, it look s like it is on mode 9. maybe i need to try mode 5?
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                        edit: when trying mode 5 the pin deploy agian (twice) instead of once but the second deploy is with a 1 sec delay.

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                        • BLVundefined
                          BLV @dc42
                          last edited by BLV

                          @dc42 said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

                          Please run M558 and check that it reports you are using Z probe mode 9.

                          I can confirm that my friend's bltouch is acting same. even changed the wiring and its beeing deployed twice - at neer 30% of the probing points.
                          2.02rc2 on mode 9 too.

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by dc42

                            Is this on a Duet WiFi, Ethernet, or Maestro?

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                            • BLVundefined
                              BLV
                              last edited by BLV

                              Mine is a DuetWifi 2 v1.01
                              today i played with all the M558 parameters but nothing changed this wired behavior.
                              the Bltouch is a clone with 3.3v output (trace has been cut)

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                I think it being a clone has more to do with it than anything.

                                Have you verified the trace is cut with a multimeter?

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                                • BLVundefined
                                  BLV @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by BLV

                                  @phaedrux said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

                                  I think it being a clone has more to do with it than anything.

                                  Have you verified the trace is cut with a multimeter?

                                  I dont think so, because yeataday i installed my friend's genuine Bltouch v2.0 smart and it has the same problem.
                                  Yes, i used a microscope at work to cut the trace and verified with a fluke.

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator @BLV
                                    last edited by Phaedrux

                                    @blv sorry I missed that.

                                    What are using for M558?
                                    What are your movement speed settings?

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                                    • BLVundefined
                                      BLV @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @phaedrux
                                      M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1
                                      M558 P9 H5 F100 T6000

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                                      • bugmundefined
                                        bugm @dc42
                                        last edited by bugm

                                        @dc42 said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

                                        Is this on a Duet WiFi, Ethernet, or Maestro?

                                        i got the 1.01 - i erased the firmware and installed again 2.02RC2 from scratch - no difference.
                                        no idea what to do, replacing the wires made no difference.
                                        even while homing z axis alone, every 2-3 homing it keeps happening - after probing the pin deploys
                                        again while the bed moving down (core xy). it hits the glass before the bed went down, then retracts.
                                        just to check as @Blv - i installed it on my mks gen-l and it works without any issue.

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                                        • genghisnico13undefined
                                          genghisnico13
                                          last edited by

                                          I've been having some problems with my 3D Touch (when it probes a hot bed), so I made a video to ask for a new one, is your probe behaving different from how its seen in the video?
                                          Sorry for the background noise around the middle, the power company is making some holes.

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator @genghisnico13
                                            last edited by Phaedrux

                                            @genghisnico13 How do you have the probe mounted? Your video makes it look like there is a bolt right above the top of the probe and it looks like it might be right beside a stepper motor? It uses an electromagnet and could be susceptible to pieces of metal being too close to it. If you take the probe out of the mount and just suspend it in the air and trigger it by hand, does it behave the same way?

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