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    dc42 administrators @tjb1
    last edited by 12 Oct 2018, 15:00

    @tjb1 said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

    Would this include it randomly falling in the middle of a print or is that a different issue?

    No, that would be a different issue.

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      BLV @genghisnico13
      last edited by 12 Oct 2018, 19:01

      @genghisnico13 said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

      @tjb1 Perhaps you could try unscrewing the top screw (core) a little, I never experienced that issue, but maybe this helps.

      yesterday i cleaned, magnetized and replaced the heatshrink but its still deploying randomly .

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        bugm @dc42
        last edited by bugm 14 Oct 2018, 07:32

        @dc42 said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

        This behaviour was common when using earlier firmwares, but only caused a problem if the Z travel speed of the probe after triggering was low. It was fixed in firmware 2.01. See https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/blob/dev/WHATS_NEW.md.

        I am running the latest 2.02RC2 version

        @blv said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

        @genghisnico13 said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

        @tjb1 Perhaps you could try unscrewing the top screw (core) a little, I never experienced that issue, but maybe this helps.

        yesterday i cleaned, magnetized and replaced the heatshrink but its still deploying randomly .

        thanks,this morning i bought a shrink and replaced it too and yet it still doing it.
        its functioning flawlessly in test mode but while probing its still deploying twice.

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          dc42 administrators
          last edited by 14 Oct 2018, 08:40

          Please run M558 and check that it reports you are using Z probe mode 9.

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            bugm @dc42
            last edited by bugm 14 Oct 2018, 09:58

            @dc42 said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

            Please run M558 and check that it reports you are using Z probe mode 9.

            Thank you, it look s like it is on mode 9. maybe i need to try mode 5?
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            edit: when trying mode 5 the pin deploy agian (twice) instead of once but the second deploy is with a 1 sec delay.

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              BLV @dc42
              last edited by BLV 14 Oct 2018, 11:05

              @dc42 said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

              Please run M558 and check that it reports you are using Z probe mode 9.

              I can confirm that my friend's bltouch is acting same. even changed the wiring and its beeing deployed twice - at neer 30% of the probing points.
              2.02rc2 on mode 9 too.

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                dc42 administrators
                last edited by dc42 14 Oct 2018, 16:17

                Is this on a Duet WiFi, Ethernet, or Maestro?

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                  BLV
                  last edited by BLV 14 Oct 2018, 17:37

                  Mine is a DuetWifi 2 v1.01
                  today i played with all the M558 parameters but nothing changed this wired behavior.
                  the Bltouch is a clone with 3.3v output (trace has been cut)

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                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by 14 Oct 2018, 19:41

                    I think it being a clone has more to do with it than anything.

                    Have you verified the trace is cut with a multimeter?

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                      BLV @Phaedrux
                      last edited by BLV 15 Oct 2018, 03:37

                      @phaedrux said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

                      I think it being a clone has more to do with it than anything.

                      Have you verified the trace is cut with a multimeter?

                      I dont think so, because yeataday i installed my friend's genuine Bltouch v2.0 smart and it has the same problem.
                      Yes, i used a microscope at work to cut the trace and verified with a fluke.

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                        Phaedrux Moderator @BLV
                        last edited by Phaedrux 15 Oct 2018, 03:41

                        @blv sorry I missed that.

                        What are using for M558?
                        What are your movement speed settings?

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                          BLV @Phaedrux
                          last edited by 15 Oct 2018, 06:16

                          @phaedrux
                          M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1
                          M558 P9 H5 F100 T6000

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                            bugm @dc42
                            last edited by bugm 15 Oct 2018, 06:36

                            @dc42 said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

                            Is this on a Duet WiFi, Ethernet, or Maestro?

                            i got the 1.01 - i erased the firmware and installed again 2.02RC2 from scratch - no difference.
                            no idea what to do, replacing the wires made no difference.
                            even while homing z axis alone, every 2-3 homing it keeps happening - after probing the pin deploys
                            again while the bed moving down (core xy). it hits the glass before the bed went down, then retracts.
                            just to check as @Blv - i installed it on my mks gen-l and it works without any issue.

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                              genghisnico13
                              last edited by 15 Oct 2018, 18:36

                              I've been having some problems with my 3D Touch (when it probes a hot bed), so I made a video to ask for a new one, is your probe behaving different from how its seen in the video?
                              Sorry for the background noise around the middle, the power company is making some holes.

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                                Phaedrux Moderator @genghisnico13
                                last edited by Phaedrux 15 Oct 2018, 18:57

                                @genghisnico13 How do you have the probe mounted? Your video makes it look like there is a bolt right above the top of the probe and it looks like it might be right beside a stepper motor? It uses an electromagnet and could be susceptible to pieces of metal being too close to it. If you take the probe out of the mount and just suspend it in the air and trigger it by hand, does it behave the same way?

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                                  BLV @genghisnico13
                                  last edited by 15 Oct 2018, 21:47

                                  @genghisnico13 said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

                                  I've been having some problems with my 3D Touch (when it probes a hot bed), so I made a video to ask for a new one, is your probe behaving different from how its seen in the video?
                                  Sorry for the background noise around the middle, the power company is making some holes.

                                  Its almost identical, except that in my case its deploying the pin only one time after it already probed the point. (On your video its deploying even more).

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                                    genghisnico13 @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by 15 Oct 2018, 22:34

                                    @phaedrux You could be right, but since the seller has already agreed to send me a new one.... I'll test it in mid air when the new one arrives (couple of months). Worst case I end up with 2 working probes.
                                    I assumed it was designed to be in close proximity to ferrous materials and put it in the only place with free space that doesn't limit movement length, could have been a bad choice, will see after testing.

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                                      dc42 administrators
                                      last edited by 16 Oct 2018, 13:57

                                      It's also worth remembering that high-current bed heaters can affect the trigger height of a BLTouch, although I've not heard of them causing the pin to redeploy. So if you are probing with the bed heater turned on, try turning it off, or add parameter B0 to the M558 command.

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                                        bugm
                                        last edited by 16 Oct 2018, 13:58

                                        @dc42 Do you have any idea what should i do please?
                                        I'm so frustrated and praying to the 3d printing god to get it work 😢

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                                          bugm @dc42
                                          last edited by 16 Oct 2018, 14:00

                                          @dc42 said in Bl-touch re-deploy after probing or z homing:

                                          It's also worth remembering that high-current bed heaters can affect the trigger height of a BLTouch, although I've not heard of them causing the pin to redeploy. So if you are probing with the bed heater turned on, try turning it off, or add parameter B0 to the M558 command.

                                          The heater is off always .

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