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    • dc42undefined
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      last edited by

      Do the 4 points you use for bed levelling fall within the area covered by the mesh?

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      • samlogan87undefined
        samlogan87
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        Hi @dc42,

        Yes they do.

        Kind Regards,

        Sam

        Custom Core-XY

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        • samlogan87undefined
          samlogan87
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          @dc42

          I forgot to mention I also re home the z axis after the auto bed leveling before I run the mesh compensation.

          Kind Regards,

          Sam

          Custom Core-XY

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          • dc42undefined
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            That does seem odd. Can you arrange it so that the 4 points that you use for bed levelling correspond exactly to points on the mesh?

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            • samlogan87undefined
              samlogan87
              last edited by

              Hi @dc42

              Sure can. Will give it a go tonight when I get home from work.

              Kind Regards,

              Sam

              Custom Core-XY

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              • samlogan87undefined
                samlogan87
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                Hi @dc42

                So I had a look at the actual maximum probing points for the mesh compensation and used them for the bed leveling.

                Here was the probing for the auto leveling:

                8:39:12 PMLeadscrew adjustments made: 0.001 -0.001 -0.000 -0.001, points used 4, deviation before 0.001 after 0.000
                8:38:44 PMLeadscrew adjustments made: -0.003 0.003 0.001 -0.001, points used 4, deviation before 0.004 after 0.000
                8:38:16 PMLeadscrew adjustments made: 0.156 0.148 0.154 0.151, points used 4, deviation before 0.153 after 0.000

                Here is the mesh height map:

                0_1540800861805_f6594bd9-10f1-48e2-92be-1a4d2d30121e-image.png

                This was the results from doing auto leveling right after:

                9:14:34 PMLeadscrew adjustments made: -0.000 0.004 -0.002 -0.002, points used 4, deviation before 0.003 after 0.000
                9:14:07 PMLeadscrew adjustments made: -0.001 0.002 0.008 0.003, points used 4, deviation before 0.005 after 0.000
                9:13:39 PMG32
                Leadscrew adjustments made: 0.006 0.019 0.031 0.014, points used 4, deviation before 0.022 after 0.000

                I guess the points do line up other than maybe the second that was 0.01mm out. I am guessing some of the issues I am having could be attributed to the fact that there would be a compounding error over 342 x2 z movements as it probes every point twice?

                Kind Regards,
                Sam

                Custom Core-XY

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                • samlogan87undefined
                  samlogan87
                  last edited by samlogan87

                  Another quick question, do you have to specify a taper at all in the .config or does it default if you do not specify the M376 code? I have not had it in my config file.

                  Kind Regards,
                  Sam

                  Custom Core-XY

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                  • dc42undefined
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                    last edited by dc42

                    If you probe repeatedly in the high-X high-y region (where the error appears to be greatest) using G30 S-1, do you get a consistent trigger height reading?

                    The default is that bed compensation is not tapered.

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                    • samlogan87undefined
                      samlogan87
                      last edited by

                      Hi @dc42
                      Thanks for that. I will give it a go.

                      So by not tapering, does that have an effect on the compensation? Or will it compensate over the entire height of the print?

                      Regards,
                      Sam

                      Custom Core-XY

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator @samlogan87
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                        @samlogan87 said in Mesh Bed Compensation and Bed Leveling:

                        Or will it compensate over the entire height of the print?

                        Exactly.

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                        • samlogan87undefined
                          samlogan87
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                          Hi @Phaedrux

                          Thanks for clarifying that. I just seem to have a few issues with consistency between mesh compensation results and auto leveling that I think is causing issues with my first layer being inaccurate.

                          Kind Regards,
                          Sam

                          Custom Core-XY

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                          • SupraGuyundefined
                            SupraGuy
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                            For almost any case like this, my first go-to for an explanation would be a machinist's straight edge. 0.1mm deviation over a couple hundred mm is practically impossible to see, but that straightedge should tell the real story. If you are getting incorrect reporting from the sensor, the first step is to determine if your sensor is wrong.

                            If your sensor is wrong, then the idea is to determine what rules (And there will be some) that determine HOW it is wrong. Sometimes certain portions of the bed have more compliance than others, particularly when your bed is spring mounted. Sometimes there is a sag or bow in axis rails, and though the bed isn't bent, the probe is correct. this is one of the things that a mesh probe can help correct for.

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                            • samlogan87undefined
                              samlogan87
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                              @SupraGuy

                              I did one more run last night of the mesh leveling and I want to do another one again tonight to confirm, but some of it could be a slightly bent Y axis (That is my moving carriage axis). I am still getting inconsistency in the mesh leveling which I am not overly sure why, hence the post.

                              Kind Regards,

                              Sam

                              Custom Core-XY

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                              • samlogan87undefined
                                samlogan87
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                                Well, I did another run and it is not a bent y axis. When I set it up, I had a few good nozzle digs into the bed and I am wondering whether somehow in doing so, it managed to put a slight bow in the center of the bed.

                                @dc42 When I run G30 S-1 with the piezo probe, it does not lift after probing and progressively digs harder into the bed. Not sure what I need to change to stop this. Even so at X 340 Y360 according to the mesh height map, the z value should be .197mm. When I probe it is 0.02mm.

                                Kind Regards,
                                Sam

                                Custom Core-XY

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                                • dc42undefined
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                                  last edited by

                                  You need to raise the head by 5mm between each pair of G30 S-1 commands.

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                                  • samlogan87undefined
                                    samlogan87
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                                    Hi @dc42

                                    I am sure I was doing that. I will have another go at it tonight.

                                    Kind Regards,
                                    Sam

                                    Custom Core-XY

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