Requests for help: Gcode cam follower/ tangential knife control.

[Danal]

@russ-gries said in Requests for help: Gcode cam follower/ tangential knife control.:

Also, are you able to make a simple script program that has an in interface for such a G code generator?

Probably. Let me "check assumptions" on my end. Inputs to such a generator for "cylindrical" coil wraps would need to be:

• Core diameter (what the wire would be wrapped around, even if removed post wrapping).
• Core "length" or "height". In other words, first wrap at z=0 and last wrap at Z=this parameter.
• Wire diameter
• Number of layers
• Packing - even or offset (see below)
• Fudge factor for packing density. Could be called "tightness".

What else?

Even Packing:

OOO   OOO
OOO   OOO
OOO   OOO
OOO   OOO
OOO   OOO
OOO   OOO

Offset Packing(would really be half spaced, characters will not show that properly)

OOO    OOO
 OOO  OOO
OOO    OOO
 OOO  OOO
OOO    OOO
 OOO  OOO
OOO    OOO
 OOO  OOO

And, is there a need for "non cylindrical" winds? Donut/Torus or similar? Those are probably beyond a simple script. Examples:

     OO    OO
    OOO    OOO
  OOOOO    OOOOO
 OOOOOO    OOOOOO
  OOOOO    OOOOO
   OOOO    OOOO
     OO    OO
   

     OO    OO
   OOO      OOO
 OOOO        OOOO
OOO            OOO
 OOOO        OOOO
   OOO      OOO
     OO    OO
   

[Russ Gries]

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I will reply to comments sooner than later I hope.

In the meantime I decided to use a stepper motor directly as my tool end. This mainly to reduce any backlash and confusion between how many steps per revolution Ect. Right now I'm using an unknown stepper motor with a very large gear reduction which I cannot tune correctly. (I also re built it for bipolar). It also has a tremendous amount of backlash in the gears and renders it almost useless for this application. It's also not fast enough so I decided to dig through my Box of steppers and I found these really nice point 9ﾟ steppers. I ended up drilling a hole down the center and I'm going to attach my tool end directly on the shaft. This is a nema 17 which is quite large and heavy, but this is to prove the concept it will work, and because it was free in my bin of parts.

Yeah that hole sucked to drill... but i got it!!

Here's a few photos
I'll post more later
Thanks
~Russ

[Russ Gries]

Ok, still haven't had time to sit down and respond to posts... will do shortly.

However i have managed to get this done.

https://youtu.be/lqoa55_MOiY

A proper video will be posted on my main YT when its time...

~Russ

[Russ Gries]

One step closer...

https://youtu.be/2Jksxj-7JEM

https://youtu.be/5zuiqzTgi_U

But still alot to do.

~Russ

[Russ Gries]

@danal said in Requests for help: Gcode cam follower/ tangential knife control.:

@russ-gries said in Requests for help: Gcode cam follower/ tangential knife control.:

Also, are you able to make a simple script program that has an in interface for such a G code generator?

Probably. Let me "check assumptions" on my end. Inputs to such a generator for "cylindrical" coil wraps would need to be:

• Core diameter (what the wire would be wrapped around, even if removed post wrapping).
• Core "length" or "height". In other words, first wrap at z=0 and last wrap at Z=this parameter.
• Wire diameter
• Number of layers
• Packing - even or offset (see below)
• Fudge factor for packing density. Could be called "tightness".

What else?

Even Packing:

OOO   OOO
OOO   OOO
OOO   OOO
OOO   OOO
OOO   OOO
OOO   OOO

Offset Packing(would really be half spaced, characters will not show that properly)

OOO    OOO
 OOO  OOO
OOO    OOO
 OOO  OOO
OOO    OOO
 OOO  OOO
OOO    OOO
 OOO  OOO

And, is there a need for "non cylindrical" winds? Donut/Torus or similar? Those are probably beyond a simple script. Examples:

     OO    OO
    OOO    OOO
  OOOOO    OOOOO
 OOOOOO    OOOOOO
  OOOOO    OOOOO
   OOOO    OOOO
     OO    OO
   

     OO    OO
   OOO      OOO
 OOOO        OOOO
OOO            OOO
 OOOO        OOOO
   OOO      OOO
     OO    OO
   

I will sendyou a PM and descuss this further!!

Thanks
~Russ

[Russ Gries]

wow, that's all i have to say...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPXUmXTCtok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq7Zv-7jEf8

~Russ

[Russ Gries]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfoMRPy4bJk

still a lot more to do... but its looking good.

~Russ

[Russ Gries]

47.5 AWG wire. about 1000 turns, 4.186 Kohms. That's a lot of resistance!

Its funny you cant even see the wire going in to the tool...

not to bad. got a bit of a slip there in the center.... more to tune still. also the roller play's a roll. Get it... ha,
on i'm slap happy...

God Bless,
~Russ

[Russ Gries]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmNTSxDMqxM

[dc42]

Nice! Anyone have any ideas of applications for flat coils? Wireless charging perhaps?

[dc42]

...yes, wireless charging coils. See https://uk.farnell.com/w/c/passive-components/inductors/charging-coils/prl/results?st=wireless+charging+coils.

[Alexander Mundy]

Off the top of my head, besides wireless charging: VLF radio. Magnetic radio for underground (cave, tunnel, etc) to surface communication. With larger gauge and some spacing, bed heat for a delta or polar, or induction heating. Metal detector coil.

[jot4p]

Hi @Russ-Gries ,

Fantastic topic.

So, you use Duet3d wifi with RepRapFirmware correct ?

What is your gcode generator /slicer ?

You create a script to run your gcode and change the values ? Do you have more information about your post processor ?

Thanks

[Russ Gries]

Hello,

Just about everything is documented on this playlist. :

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsiIKXpZfLKI-UXGFdXYS2groWniI-Eh5

If you want to know why i built it. Its to build this:

https://youtu.be/ivPsGxCXyPA

And test some theories...

~Russ

[jot4p]

@russ-gries

Yes, I follow you on YouTube

so, in this video you use Fusion 360, after that you use Simplify3D correct ? But you create a script to adjust the xyz to xyzU correct (U/A the angle of extruder 1), do you have some documentation ? or a start point for me (forum/ paper etc.. ?) I need to do the same for a concrete 3D printer.

I know that it is possible to do it automatically with Mach3 but I would like to try to do it myself.

At this moment I use Autodesk Inventor + PrinterRun (www.pronterface.com/) , it's possible to create scripts / macros with python to create the "final GCode".

My idea is change the rapms 1.4 (3d printer mainboard) by Duet3D and adjust this code to create the "tangential control" .

How do you adapt the Duet3D to create a U axis ? (the new "Extruder" axis ) ?

Thanks.