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    • tsitalon1undefined
      tsitalon1
      last edited by

      Hey guys,

      Built my first HEVO and I'm confused on the firmware setup. Current printer is a Anet A8 converted to Duet, so the HEVO is brand new to me. I am using a Wifi Duet with FW 2.01

      I'm running through the RepRap configurator, but I'm unsure what values to use for the motors, my motors are these:
      NEMA 17 42BYGH 1.7A (17HS4401)

      I have no idea what microstepping, steps/mm, speed, acel values to use...

      Can you guys get me started please, or point me to typically config files for a Core X/Y HEVO with BL touch and bowden Extruder?

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
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        For microstepping use x16 with interpolation.

        steps/mm must be calculated based on your drive pulley tooth count, belt tooth pitch, and motor specs. If you click the micro stepping box in the configurator a little pop up box will open that lets you input your details. Do that for each axis.

        The motor you linked seems to be a 200 steps per rotation 1.8 degree motor.

        For motor current it's recommended to use 85% of the max rated. So 1700ma x 0.85 = 1400

        Speed and accel values can be tuned once you have it all running but 6000 accel is probably a good starting point for firmware maximums and 120000mm/min for firmware max speed. Ideally you'd want to set that to your max travel speed.

        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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        • tsitalon1undefined
          tsitalon1
          last edited by

          Thank you, that got me going.

          X, Y and Z are all moving as expected now.

          Having an issue with NO micro switch/pcb endstops, I have mine wired as NO, LED on Duet lights up when I press the switch yet, the carriage will crash. Also testing via web interface confirms the switch status is not changing.

          Firmware is setup with M574 X1 Y1 S0 which as I understand it mean NO...

          What could cause the LED to light up when the switch is pressed, yet the duet to not stop movement while homing?

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @tsitalon1
            last edited by

            @tsitalon1 said in First Hevo - need some setup guidance.:

            Thank you, that got me going.

            X, Y and Z are all moving as expected now.

            Having an issue with NO micro switch/pcb endstops, I have mine wired as NO, LED on Duet lights up when I press the switch yet, the carriage will crash. Also testing via web interface confirms the switch status is not changing.

            Firmware is setup with M574 X1 Y1 S0 which as I understand it mean NO...

            What could cause the LED to light up when the switch is pressed, yet the duet to not stop movement while homing?

            Please post your config.g file and your homing files.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            • tsitalon1undefined
              tsitalon1
              last edited by tsitalon1

              Here they are:

              0_1548850327475_config.g
              4_1548850327475_homez.g
              3_1548850327475_homey.g
              2_1548850327475_homex.g
              1_1548850327475_homeall.g

              I have only tried to home X so far, fails miserably.

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
                last edited by

                As they are PCB endstops, do they have any other components on the PCB apart from the microswitch, such an an LED that lights up when the switch is triggered? If yes, they probably needs to be wired differently, see https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_endstop_switches#Section_Makerbot_Mechanical_Endstop_v1_Num_2.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • tsitalon1undefined
                  tsitalon1
                  last edited by

                  Yep, these units:
                  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XTB7WMK

                  Still confused, do I need to connect all 3 wires like the Makerbot units then?

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @tsitalon1
                    last edited by

                    @tsitalon1 said in First Hevo - need some setup guidance.:

                    Yep, these units:
                    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XTB7WMK

                    Still confused, do I need to connect all 3 wires like the Makerbot units then?

                    Yes, those look like clones of the Makerbot.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti
                      last edited by

                      trigger the endstop manualy and check the endstop status with M119

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                      • tsitalon1undefined
                        tsitalon1
                        last edited by

                        Still at work, so I haven't tried the above yet, can I just switch to load sensing with a CoreXY setup?

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                        • tsitalon1undefined
                          tsitalon1 @dc42
                          last edited by

                          @dc42 said in First Hevo - need some setup guidance.:

                          @tsitalon1 said in First Hevo - need some setup guidance.:

                          Yep, these units:
                          https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XTB7WMK

                          Still confused, do I need to connect all 3 wires like the Makerbot units then?

                          Yes, those look like clones of the Makerbot.

                          Working, Thank you!

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                          • tsitalon1undefined
                            tsitalon1
                            last edited by tsitalon1

                            Getting great results with one caveat:

                            20mm cube print, one edge is bulging all the way up the print, only one edge.

                            I've played with Jerk/Acceleration to no avail, also tried adjusting Extruder steps, and random seam yet problem persists. Printing at 60mm/s / 30mm/sec External perms.

                            using Slic3r 1.42.0 Alpha 2, any help would be appreciated!
                            0_1549728268241_20190209_100216.jpg

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                            • JamesMundefined
                              JamesM
                              last edited by

                              Could be oozing when it goes to the next layer..maybe try increasing your z-axis speed, acceleration and jerk in the config file.

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                              • tsitalon1undefined
                                tsitalon1 @JamesM
                                last edited by

                                Found that changing to a random seam, simply moved this issue all over the model in random spots.

                                It's definitely related to layer changes, I've increased retraction to 7 and retraction speed to 90mm, my next test is to enable retraction on layer change.

                                I am using a somewhat long bowden setup, roughly 750mm tube..

                                I''ll try upping the Z axis Speed as well.

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @tsitalon1
                                  last edited by

                                  @tsitalon1 said in First Hevo - need some setup guidance.:

                                  enable retraction on layer change

                                  I think you definitely want that.

                                  That is a quite long bowden tube, which will make this problem difficult to resolve. Bulging and blobbling like this at the layer seam is usually due to the time it takes to transition from one layer to another. The solution is to make the transition as quick as possible so that the filament doesn't have time to ooze out.

                                  Z axis speed, retraction speed, and acceleration values need to be fairly high. And pressure advance will be critical to reducing the pressure at the nozzle enough to allow the retraction to prevent ooze.

                                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                  • tsitalon1undefined
                                    tsitalon1 @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by

                                    @phaedrux

                                    Where can I learn more about pressure advance on the Duet?

                                    Is it enabled by default, is there a guide to follow?

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Pressure_advance

                                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                      • JamesMundefined
                                        JamesM
                                        last edited by

                                        With that long a bowden tube I would start pressure advance at a value around .7 I use .55 on my Ender 3 printer when printing PLA and .95 when printing petg.

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                                        • Gearundefined
                                          Gear
                                          last edited by

                                          enable retract on layer change.

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                                          • tsitalon1undefined
                                            tsitalon1
                                            last edited by

                                            Tried all combinations above and everything I can think of, switched to Capricorn XS which helped.

                                            I'm getting incredible quality on all prints except this damn cube....

                                            Look at the corners, this is only happening on 2 points.

                                            Bottom right on Y side
                                            0_1550802057040_20190221_201659.jpg

                                            Top Left on X side:
                                            0_1550802090618_20190221_201721.jpg

                                            All other corners are fine.

                                            I noticed this happens above/below the indented Character but not inline with the character on the side.

                                            Pictures above are with Retraction of 6mm @220mm/s with pressure advance of M572 D0 S0.1. I didn't see much improvement with higher PA and/or retract on layer change enabled.

                                            Any help would be appreciated.

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