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    • Excelonundefined
      Excelon
      last edited by

      Here are two videos of the hesitation. Thanks again!

      https://1drv.ms/f/s!AlKKGWMmM2j4xWSi3ZFVDpF6B_du

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        I can't really tell that it's hesitating.

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        • Excelonundefined
          Excelon @Phaedrux
          last edited by

          @phaedrux said in X and Y surging / hesitant / pulsing while returning from homing:

          I can't really tell that it's hesitating.

          Can you turn up the volume and hear the steppers? I did watch it also and thought the same thing. It's minor but its still not supposed to do that, right?

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by Phaedrux

            Ok with the volume up loud I can hear that the motor sound isn't fluid when returning to the home position.

            What happens if you do a test print?

            Are your motor currents within range of 85% of rated max?

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            • Excelonundefined
              Excelon
              last edited by Excelon

              No, I believe those steppers are rated for 1.68amps (1680)and I have it set to 0.8 ( 800 ). Could that cause it?

              I lowered the amps on everything because the steppers are too loud when @ rated amps

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                Do you have the spec sheet for the motors?

                Well we don't know whether the hesitation sound actually has any negative effect on printing. It'll be a balance between sound and power.

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                • Excelonundefined
                  Excelon @Phaedrux
                  last edited by Excelon

                  @phaedrux

                  All the stepper motors are from E3D. Here is the link to the steppers.

                  https://e3d-online.com/motors-compact-but-powerful-motor

                  I do have to say that the pulsing and hesitation is getting worse. Now, instead of the steppers pausing once or twice while returning from home its doing it about every 15mm, or so... Could I have a bad board?

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                  • Excelonundefined
                    Excelon
                    last edited by

                    @dc42 and @Phaedrux

                    So, I wanted to change out the Duet 2 wifi board to see if I had a faulty board so I removed the one from the Ender 3 that hasn't been turned on in months.

                    Verdict? The steppers DID NOT jerk or hesitate while returning from homing, but as soon as I started a print it DID. Long story short ( I'll cut out how exactly I found this ) the steppers only jerk/hesitate when the mesh map is loaded and active.

                    WHY?

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                      the steppers only jerk/hesitate when the mesh map is loaded and active.

                      WHY?

                      Jerk set too low.

                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_mesh_bed_compensation#Section_Troubleshooting

                      If you get jerky movements when the head moves across the bed at speed with mesh bed levelling enabled, but not with it disabled, this indicates that your Z jerk setting is too low for the travel speed you are using and the amount of compensation needed. Increase the Z parameter in the M566 command in config.g, or use a lower travel speed.

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                      • Excelonundefined
                        Excelon @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @phaedrux

                        @excelon said in X and Y surging / hesitant / pulsing while returning from homing:

                        @dc42 and @Phaedrux

                        So, I wanted to change out the Duet 2 wifi board to see if I had a faulty board so I removed the one from the Ender 3 that hasn't been turned on in months.

                        Verdict? The steppers DID NOT jerk or hesitate while returning from homing, but as soon as I started a print it DID. Long story short ( I'll cut out how exactly I found this ) the steppers only jerk/hesitate when the mesh map is loaded and active.

                        WHY?

                        Ok.... for 'Z'... I don't think I changed the Z axis. Only X and Y since though were the only ones giving me issues. Let me try this! Thank you

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          I have a very slow Z axis with a heavy bed and I use a jerk and acceleration value of 60 for each. Seems to work out ok.

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                          • Excelonundefined
                            Excelon @Phaedrux
                            last edited by Excelon

                            @phaedrux said in X and Y surging / hesitant / pulsing while returning from homing:

                            I have a very slow Z axis with a heavy bed and I use a jerk and acceleration value of 60 for each. Seems to work out ok.

                            I like to use a lower jerk value for when the print requires supports since it's hardest to print supports. It's mostly just the first layer and sometimes the start of the second.

                            NOTE: I raised the Z jerk and it's not doing it now. Thanks guys. Sorry, I had to find out the hardway. I am hard headed!

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Glad it's working.

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