I figured it out. I had to change from G1 S2 to G1 S1 in homeall.g. Now I have some fine tuning to do.

@phaedrux said in X and Y surging / hesitant / pulsing while returning from homing:

I have a very slow Z axis with a heavy bed and I use a jerk and acceleration value of 60 for each. Seems to work out ok.

I like to use a lower jerk value for when the print requires supports since it's hardest to print supports. It's mostly just the first layer and sometimes the start of the second.

NOTE: I raised the Z jerk and it's not doing it now. Thanks guys. Sorry, I had to find out the hardway. I am hard headed!

@phaedrux

@excelon said in X and Y surging / hesitant / pulsing while returning from homing:

@dc42 and @Phaedrux

So, I wanted to change out the Duet 2 wifi board to see if I had a faulty board so I removed the one from the Ender 3 that hasn't been turned on in months.

Verdict? The steppers DID NOT jerk or hesitate while returning from homing, but as soon as I started a print it DID. Long story short ( I'll cut out how exactly I found this ) the steppers only jerk/hesitate when the mesh map is loaded and active.

WHY?

Ok.... for 'Z'... I don't think I changed the Z axis. Only X and Y since though were the only ones giving me issues. Let me try this! Thank you

@dc42 and @Phaedrux

So, I wanted to change out the Duet 2 wifi board to see if I had a faulty board so I removed the one from the Ender 3 that hasn't been turned on in months.

Verdict? The steppers DID NOT jerk or hesitate while returning from homing, but as soon as I started a print it DID. Long story short ( I'll cut out how exactly I found this ) the steppers only jerk/hesitate when the mesh map is loaded and active.

WHY?

@phaedrux

All the stepper motors are from E3D. Here is the link to the steppers.

https://e3d-online.com/motors-compact-but-powerful-motor

I do have to say that the pulsing and hesitation is getting worse. Now, instead of the steppers pausing once or twice while returning from home its doing it about every 15mm, or so... Could I have a bad board?

No, I believe those steppers are rated for 1.68amps (1680)and I have it set to 0.8 ( 800 ). Could that cause it?

I lowered the amps on everything because the steppers are too loud when @ rated amps

@phaedrux said in X and Y surging / hesitant / pulsing while returning from homing:

I can't really tell that it's hesitating.

Can you turn up the volume and hear the steppers? I did watch it also and thought the same thing. It's minor but its still not supposed to do that, right?

Here are two videos of the hesitation. Thanks again!

https://1drv.ms/f/s!AlKKGWMmM2j4xWSi3ZFVDpF6B_du

@phaedrux said in X and Y surging / hesitant / pulsing while returning from homing:

It might help to see a video of it in action.

Does the motion feel smooth if you disconnect the motor wires and move the carriage by hand?

I suspect binding or maybe a loose grub screw on a pulley.

That's what I thought also. I removed the whole bed and cleaned everything and re adj the tension.... same. I will upload a video tomorrow when I get home from work.

I tried values for 1000 for both instant and jerk speed and it does the same thing only faster. Any other idea's?

@deckingman said in X and Y surging / hesitant / pulsing while returning from homing:

@excelon IMO your instantaneous speed change (jerk) of 10mm/min is crazy low and accelerations of 90mm/sec^2 aren't much better unless your gantry weighs 20Kgs or so . Try setting both to something like 1,000.

@dpeckingman deckthank you as well for your input. Although, I didn't try 1000 for either i did try to increase both of those values because I had downloaded and printed a modified hotend with dual fans that were kind of loose and for that reason I had to lower the " jerk" value and then have come like the smoothness of the lower values. With that being said I did experience the hesitation from TOO LOW of the " jerk" value, but this is not the case, but I am willing to trying the 1000 value for both to see if it helps it for sure. I'm not opposed to trying anything if its recommended.

Thanks again!
Eric