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    Veti @magdi
    last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 17:33

    @magdi said in big box madness:

    also i have an E3d hot end and am a bit confused about using the pt1000 amps? ive connected them currently straight to the duet but temps are like 2000c.

    do you mean pt100?

    did you configure the m305 correctly?

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      magdi @Veti
      last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 17:55

      @veti yes pt100 i think.
      heres what i have atm but in all honesty im not sure what to configure here.

      M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
      M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
      M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
      M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
      M305 P2 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
      M143 H2 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C

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        Veti
        last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 18:10

        none of those are for pt100 or pt1000 thermistors

        check the configurator for the sensor channel to set it correctly
        https://configurator.reprapfirmware.org/Heaters

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          magdi @Veti
          last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 18:32

          @veti cheers for the help, i have changed to the pt100, but still have the same issue. where should i then pin the two wires into the board,

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            Veti
            last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 18:36

            to the external RTD interface board

            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_PT100_temperature_sensors

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              magdi @Veti
              last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 19:11

              @veti i have tried it and still cant connect the bloody thing. so ive found the daugherboard connection point on the duet. that has 10 pins. i only have 4 wires (dual extruders' with two sets of black and red wires connected together) I just dont know where to put the bloody things. the images on the page you supplied are not very helpful and i cant crack the schematic. i think im just being stupid.

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                Phaedrux Moderator @magdi
                last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 19:16

                @magdi Do you have a PT100 daughterboard?

                https://www.duet3d.com/PT100_DaughterBoard

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                  magdi @Phaedrux
                  last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 19:17

                  @phaedrux i have a pt100 board but it came with my e3d v6 not the same as the duet one.

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                    Phaedrux Moderator @magdi
                    last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 19:22

                    @magdi So you got this? https://e3d-online.com/pt100-amplifier-board

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                      magdi @Phaedrux
                      last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 19:23

                      @phaedrux yep two of those badboys,

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                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 19:27

                        Alright, sorry to say, but I don't think that will work. You'll need the daughterboard.

                        https://e3d-online.dozuki.com/Wiki/E3D_PT100_Amplifier_Documentation
                        https://e3d-online.dozuki.com/Wiki/Temperature_Sensor_Documentation#Section_PT100

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                          magdi @Phaedrux
                          last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 19:29

                          @phaedrux right is there not way just just bypass the pt100 and just connect the thermistor to the duet board?

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                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 19:35

                            Well if the sensor is a PT100 sensor, then no, it needs the daughterboard to interface with the duet. If you have a seperate regular thermistor, then yes, it could be connected to the thermistor input.

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                              magdi @Phaedrux
                              last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 19:38

                              @phaedrux i have a separate thermistor sorry i should of said that, the thermistor fist into the pt100 but i dont understand why i cant just put it in the motherboard. temps are still wrong when i do that

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                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 19:41

                                Here's how you connect a regular thermistor.

                                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_thermistors_or_PT1000_temperature_sensors

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                                  magdi @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by magdi 3 May 2019, 19:56 5 Mar 2019, 19:50

                                  @phaedrux thanks for the help as always. have just done it. temps are now ~280 so we we need another 90%hit! print head is stone cold.

                                  M305 P0 R4700 T100000 B3950 (for the bed WORKS!)
                                  M305 P1 R4700 T100000 B4725 C0.0000000706 (HOT END NOT WORKS)

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                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by Phaedrux 3 May 2019, 20:09 5 Mar 2019, 20:09

                                    Is this an e3d thermistor?do you know the values to use for it?

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                                      magdi @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 20:12

                                      @phaedrux yes used the ones as advised on the wiki

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                                        Veti
                                        last edited by 5 Mar 2019, 20:29

                                        no you connected a pt100 and configure a ATC Semitec 104GT-2. that does not work.

                                        you need to get a ATC Semitec 104GT-2 or get the pt100 daugther board

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                                          magdi @Veti
                                          last edited by magdi 3 May 2019, 20:59 5 Mar 2019, 20:56

                                          @Veti it has been done before
                                          https://forum.e3d-online.com/threads/bigbox-duetwifi-controller.1766/
                                          so im confused now haha!
                                          the dude got it to work with
                                          ;*** If you have a Duet board with 1K thermistor series resistors, change R4700 to R1000 to the following M305 commands
                                          M305 P0 T100000 B4388 R4700 H30 L0 ; Put your own H and/or L values here to set the bed thermistor ADC correction
                                          M305 P1 T100000 B4388 R4700 H30 L0 ; Put your own H and/or L values here to set the first nozzle thermistor ADC correction
                                          M305 P2 R4700 H0 L0 ; Put your own H and/or L values here to set the second nozzle thermistor ADC correction
                                          M301 H1 P10 I0.10 D100 T0.50 S1.0 ; PID settings for extruder 0
                                          M301 H2 P10 I0.10 D100 T0.50 S1.0 ; PID settings for extruder 1
                                          M570 S120 ; Increase to allow extra heating time if needed
                                          M106 F10 ; Fix for Bigbox Blower

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