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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators @Eckbert0815
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      @eckbert0815 said in Newbe need help duet ethernet printinmg headtower fails:

      I tryed to print headtower, but if the print start the heater and the beg go to temperature 1.

      I'm sorry, I don't understand your problem description. Have you tested and tuned the bed heater and extruder heater?

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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      • Eckbert0815undefined
        Eckbert0815
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        I dia a pid tuning and saved it with M500.
        The problem is, when the print starts, the heater goes from 260° to 1° and teh bed from 110° to 1°-

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        • deckingmanundefined
          deckingman @Eckbert0815
          last edited by

          @eckbert0815 Looks like it's something to do with your slicer settings.

          In the actual gcode file these lines are fine
          M190 S110
          M104 S260
          M109 S260

          but a little later are these lines

          M190 S[bed0_temperature] T0
          M109 S[extruder0_temperature] T0

          The firmware won't understand those commands.

          Ian
          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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          • Eckbert0815undefined
            Eckbert0815
            last edited by

            Thanks, now i have the next problen, big elephantfeeds and overextrusion.

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            • deckingmanundefined
              deckingman @Eckbert0815
              last edited by

              @eckbert0815 I'm not surprised.

              For your steps per mm you have M92 X80.40 Y80.40 Z800.00 E440.50:837.00 ;

              But that's in you slicer start script. Why are you making those settings in your slicer and not your configuration files? More importantly, why do have two completely different values for each extruder? Do you have one with a 1.8 degree motor and the other with a 0.9 degree motor?

              You haven't told us anything about your printer or your configuration settings, other than the start script you use in Cura. I suggest you read this then come back with the information that is needed for someone to be able to help. https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/5909/guide-for-posting-requests-for-help

              Ian
              https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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              • Eckbert0815undefined
                Eckbert0815
                last edited by Eckbert0815

                @deckingman

                You are right, i told you nothing!
                With radds and repetier is it easier to cofigurate the printer with the startcode, otherwise you have to flash a new firmware or edit it on the printer self.

                Let`s start again!

                Ich have a core xy see picture.
                Technial details:
                Modell: NoName
                Hotend: Nf tc-01 full Metall Heatbrak, 0.41 Microswiss Nozzle
                Extruder: 2x Titan Bowden one with 1.8° stepper and one with 0.9°
                Pancake stepper.
                Filament: ABS-X Schmelzbar
                Firmware: Duet (RepRap)
                Slicer: Cura 3.6

                New Cura Startcode: (works fine)
                T0
                M116
                M106 P1 S255
                G28 Y X ;home X and Y axes
                G1 Z20 F6000 ;Move the platform down 0mm
                G1 E15 F300 ; fill up nozzle from previous retract
                G28 Z ;home Z axes
                G1 Z0 F6000 ;Move the platform down 0mm
                G92 E0
                G1 F200 E3
                G92 E0

                New config.g
                ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
                ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                ;
                ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Wed Mar 06 2019 16:12:25 GMT+0100 (Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit)

                ; General preferences
                G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
                M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                M555 P1 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like RepRapFirmare
                M667 S1 ; Select CoreXY mode

                ; Network
                M550 P"R2D2" ; Set machine name
                M540 PBE:04:32:3E:51:3A ; Set custom MAC address
                M552 P0.0.0.0 S1 ; Enable network and set IP address
                M553 P255.255.255.0 ; Set netmask
                M554 P192.168.1.1 ; Set gateway
                M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
                M586 P1 S1 ; Enable FTP
                M586 P2 S1 ; Enable Telnet

                ; Drives
                M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes backwards
                M569 P3 S0 ; Drive 3 goes backwards
                M569 P4 S0 ; Drive 4 goes backwards
                M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                M92 X80.40 Y80.40 Z800.00 E918.03:837.00 ; Set steps per mm
                M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00:120.00 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                M203 X10000.00 Y10000.00 Z500.00 E1500.00:1500.00 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z300.00 E10000.00:10000.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                M906 X1900.00 Y1900.00 Z1900.00 E1900.00:1400.00 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                ; Axis Limits
                M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                M208 X300 Y265 Z245 S0 ; Set axis maxima

                ; Endstops
                M574 X1 Y1 S0 ; Set active low and disabled endstops
                M574 Z1 S1 ; Set active high endstops

                ; Z-Probe
                M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000 ; Disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                M557 X15:285 Y15:245 S20 ; Define mesh grid

                ; Heaters
                M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                M143 H0 S130 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 130C
                M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                ; Fans
                M106 P0 S1 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                ; Tools
                M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
                G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                ; Automatic power saving
                M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; Set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

                ; Custom settings are not configured

                0_1552138837635_IMG_0346.jpg
                with radds, the printer prints ok with 120mm/s

                0_1552138856829_IMG_0347.jpg
                0_1552138867215_IMG_0348.jpg

                Now i got this:

                The headtower is so lala print from 260-215° Flow 100 EM/EW 40
                0_1552139346818_IMG_0353.jpg
                0_1552139352821_IMG_0354.jpg

                But the 20mm cube........i don`t know the problem.
                0_1552139487510_IMG_0349.jpg
                ![0_1552139493910_IMG_0350.jpg](Uploading 100%)
                0_1552139498024_IMG_0351.jpg
                0_1552139504974_IMG_0352.jpg
                0_1552139750442_IMG_0350.jpg

                Sorry for my bad english, i am from germany.

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                • Eckbert0815undefined
                  Eckbert0815 @Eckbert0815
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                  Note the printer is still in process, becaus i can`t print the parts for paneldue, dor, sidecover .....

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                  • deckingmanundefined
                    deckingman @Eckbert0815
                    last edited by

                    @eckbert0815 The problems look to be temperature related and I can't see any M307 commands in your config.g so I suggest you tune the heater PID settings https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Tuning_the_heater_temperature_control

                    Also your steps per mm for the extruders don't match what you've said about the motors. For an E3D Titan with 1.8 degree motors the steps per mm are in the order of about 420 so for a 0.9 degree motor, they should be about 840. In your config.g you have E918.03:837.00. So I suggest you set the steps per mm roughly, then calibrate both extruders.

                    I'm guessing that by "headtower" you mean a temperature tower. If the pictures show the result of printing ABS in a range from 260 to 215 then the upper delamination of the layers is exactly as one would expect if that was printed as low as 215.

                    Ian
                    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                    • Eckbert0815undefined
                      Eckbert0815
                      last edited by Eckbert0815

                      @deckingman The M307 ist in the config-override.g

                      ; Heater model parameters
                      M307 H0 A90.0 C700.0 D10.0 S1.00 V0.0 B1
                      M307 H1 A1249.4 C240.8 D5.3 S1.00 V27.2 B0
                      M307 H2 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                      M307 H3 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                      M307 H4 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                      M307 H5 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                      M307 H6 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                      M307 H7 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                      G10 L2 P1 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                      G10 L2 P2 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                      G10 L2 P3 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                      G10 L2 P4 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                      G10 L2 P5 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                      G10 L2 P6 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                      G10 L2 P7 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                      G10 L2 P8 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
                      G10 L2 P9 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00

                      I have changes to the extruder with the 0.9 stepper becaus the big gear from the other titan ist not the best, changed at the board too and calibrate it. But not the second one. I wil calibrate the exturder later.

                      New steps and jerk....
                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                      M92 X80.40 Y80.40 Z800.00 E879.00:420.00 ; Set steps per mm
                      M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E1200.00:1200.00 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                      M203 X10000.00 Y10000.00 Z500.00 E3600.00:3600.00 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                      M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z300.00 E10000.00:10000.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                      M906 X1900.00 Y1900.00 Z1900.00 E1400.00:1900.00 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

                      Now i try a print with less temperature 240° nozzle and bed 85°, retract 5.5mm.

                      It sems to be better.

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                      • deckingmanundefined
                        deckingman @Eckbert0815
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                        @eckbert0815 said in Newbe need help duet ethernet printinmg headtower fails:

                        @deckingman The M307 ist in the config-override.g...........................

                        In that case, you need to add M501 to the end of your config.g file in order to read in those values. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M501_Read_stored_parameters

                        Without the M501, the values stored in config-override. won't get read. Alternatively, you can copy or cut and paste those M307 lines into your config.g file.

                        Ian
                        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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