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    • AimRabbitundefined
      AimRabbit @Phaedrux
      last edited by

      @phaedrux said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

      And just to confirm, you can jog the axis motors around no problem? It's only when you start a print?
      Have you tried a different gcode file to print?

      Thats right. I can move the axis and home it and everything is fine until I want to print. Then it doesn't move.

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      • AimRabbitundefined
        AimRabbit @Phaedrux
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        @phaedrux said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

        You can test by deleting the resurrect.g

        Ok one moment I'll try it and give you some feedback 😉

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        • AimRabbitundefined
          AimRabbit
          last edited by

          OK I think I found the problem.
          It was the ressurect.g.

          But now I get this error 😞 I attached the M122 for better diagnostic.
          18:33:54
          Resume state saved
          Print auto-paused due to low voltage
          18:33:54
          M24
          Printing resumed
          18:33:38
          Resume state saved
          Print auto-paused due to low voltage
          18:33:37
          M32 "Calibration/CFFFP_xyzCalibration_cube.gcode"
          File Calibration/CFFFP_xyzCalibration_cube.gcode selected for printing
          18:33:31
          M122
          === Diagnostics ===
          RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.02(RTOS) running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
          Board ID: 08DGM-917DA-G4MSJ-6J1F2-3SJ6T-K9RR8
          Used output buffers: 3 of 20 (10 max)
          === RTOS ===
          Static ram: 25524
          Dynamic ram: 98912 of which 0 recycled
          Exception stack ram used: 488
          Never used ram: 6148
          Tasks: NETWORK(ready,544) HEAT(blocked,1232) MAIN(running,3812) IDLE(ready,200)
          Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK)
          === Platform ===
          Last reset 00:04:49 ago, cause: power up
          Last software reset at 2019-03-19 17:59, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 6308 bytes (slot 0)
          Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x04417000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
          Error status: 0
          Free file entries: 9
          SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
          SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
          MCU temperature: min 35.3, current 37.7, max 37.9
          Supply voltage: min 9.9, current 10.9, max 24.3, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
          Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max 0/100
          Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
          Driver 2: ok, SG min/max not available
          Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
          Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
          Date/time: 2019-03-20 18:33:32
          Cache data hit count 1092080024
          Slowest loop: 3.54ms; fastest: 0.07ms
          I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0
          === Move ===
          Hiccups: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, FreeDm: 239, MinFreeDm: 238, MaxWait: 282492ms, Underruns: 0, 0
          Scheduled moves: 8, completed moves: 7
          Bed compensation in use: none
          Bed probe heights: 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
          === Heat ===
          Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
          Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.0
          Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.7
          === GCodes ===
          Segments left: 0
          Stack records: 1 allocated, 1 in use
          Movement lock held by http
          http is idle in state(s) 1 5
          telnet is idle in state(s) 0
          file is idle in state(s) 0
          serial is idle in state(s) 0
          aux is idle in state(s) 0
          daemon is idle in state(s) 0
          queue is idle in state(s) 0
          autopause is idle in state(s) 0
          Code queue is empty.
          === Network ===
          Slowest loop: 14.21ms; fastest: 0.00ms
          Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
          HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

          • WiFi -
            Network state is running
            WiFi module is connected to access point
            Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
            WiFi firmware version 1.21
            WiFi MAC address cc:50:e3:0d:1c:9e
            WiFi Vcc 3.44, reset reason Turned on by main processor
            WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 14912
            WiFi IP address 192.168.178.9
            WiFi signal strength -64dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
            Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

          I don't understand why the VIN is decreasing that much.

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            What is your power supply?

            Are the VIN terminals screwed down tightly?

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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            • AimRabbitundefined
              AimRabbit @Phaedrux
              last edited by

              @phaedrux said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

              What is your power supply?

              Are the VIN terminals screwed down tightly?

              PSU is 24V/15A
              and yes I screwed it tight down.

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @AimRabbit
                last edited by

                Have you tested the output of the PSU with a multimeter?

                It could be failing. Do you have another 24v PSU to test with?

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                • mrehorstdmdundefined
                  mrehorstdmd
                  last edited by

                  Is there a T0 or T1 statement to select a tool somewhere in a config file or in the print gcode?

                  https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @mrehorstdmd
                    last edited by Phaedrux

                    @mrehorstdmd Yeah there is one inserted by cura in the slicer start code.

                    ;FLAVOR:RepRap
                    ;TIME:917
                    ;Filament used: 1.36441m, 0m
                    ;Layer height: 0.2
                    ;Generated with Cura_SteamEngine 4.0.0
                    T0
                    M190 S60
                    M104 S210
                    M109 S210
                    M82 ;absolute extrusion mode
                    G28 ;Home
                    G1 Z15.0 F6000 ;Move the platform down 15mm
                    ;Prime the extruder
                    G92 E0
                    G1 F200 E3
                    G92 E0
                    M83 ;relative extrusion mode
                    G1 F1500 E-6.5
                    ;LAYER_COUNT:100
                    ;LAYER:0
                    M107 P1
                    G0 F3600 X130.865 Y142.007 Z0.3
                    ;TYPE:SKIRT
                    G1 F1500 E6.5
                    G1 F2400 X131.315 Y141.665 E0.0282
                    G1 X131.808 Y141.389 E0.02819
                    G1 X132.336 Y141.185 E0.02824
                    G1 X132.886 Y141.058 E0.02816
                    G1 X133.509 Y141.009 E0.03118
                    G1 X153.491 Y141.01 E0.99691
                    

                    If there wasn't the heater wouldn't heat.

                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                    • AimRabbitundefined
                      AimRabbit @mrehorstdmd
                      last edited by

                      @mrehorstdmd said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

                      Is there a T0 or T1 statement to select a tool somewhere in a config file or in the print gcode?

                      I don't think so. I uploaded the gcode. It's in the first post as an attachment.

                      @Phaedrux I'll will check the VIN and give feedback in a few minutes

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                      • AimRabbitundefined
                        AimRabbit @Phaedrux
                        last edited by AimRabbit

                        @phaedrux said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

                        Have you tested the output of the PSU with a multimeter?

                        It could be failing. Do you have another 24v PSU to test with?

                        Yeah you were right 😢 the VIN decreases from ~24V to ~10V.
                        Did you know a good PSU which I could buy? It seems that I have no luck with that printer.

                        I had to change nearly every piece exclude the frame 😭

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @AimRabbit
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                          I would recommend a Meanwell PSU. The wattage will depend on if you're powering a PCB bed heater as well, or if it's an SSR controlled AC mains heater.

                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_the_power_supply

                          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                          • mrehorstdmdundefined
                            mrehorstdmd
                            last edited by

                            I second that. MeanWell makes good stuff. Avoid the cheapo "LED" power supplies that litter ebay. MeanWells cost just a few $ more and are far more reliable.

                            How can you tell junk from the good stuff? Look for certification marks like CE, UL, TUV, etc. The more of those it has, the better.

                            https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @mrehorstdmd
                              last edited by

                              @mrehorstdmd said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

                              How can you tell junk from the good stuff?

                              It also helps to buy from reputable distributors like mouser or digikey.

                              Here's the one I use. (canadian mouser store front) https://www.mouser.ca/ProductDetail/Mean-Well/SE-200-24/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsPs3th5F8koBXG%2F88ctzcM7%252bcCQ8TI45g%3D

                              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                              • AimRabbitundefined
                                AimRabbit @Phaedrux
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                                @phaedrux said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

                                Meanwell

                                Ok. And yes I have a PCB bed heater connected to the duet.
                                What a PSU could you recomment for a Duet 2 Wifi, PanelDue 7i, E3D Chimera, PCB bed heater, one tool fan and two part fans. I realy appreciate your help. Thanks a lot!

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                                • AimRabbitundefined
                                  AimRabbit @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by

                                  @phaedrux said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:
                                  canadian mouser store front

                                  Sorry but I'm from germany and it's very expensive to ship and tax. But thank you now I know what I'll looking for. 🙂 Hopefully everything will work after that replacement.

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
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                                    Well Mouser is just an example of a reputable distributor. You'd have to find something similar locally.

                                    The PSU I linked is suitable for a printer without a PCB heated bed.

                                    This link will help you calculate how big the PSU needs to be: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_the_power_supply

                                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators
                                      last edited by

                                      Your power supply voltage is probably dropping when the bed heater turns on. Is your bed heater definitely a 24V one; or if it is dual voltage, have you wired it for 24V not 12V?

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • AimRabbitundefined
                                        AimRabbit
                                        last edited by AimRabbit

                                        @dc42 said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

                                        Your power supply voltage is probably dropping when the bed heater turns on. Is your bed heater definitely a 24V one; or if it is dual voltage, have you wired it for 24V not 12V?

                                        Yes it drops at heating the bed. I asked you that in an other thread but you didn't answer I thought of this it doesn't matter.
                                        Ok now I take a look at it but there are no hints if it's 12V or 24V. I can see that there are 3 points where you can wire it. I took 2 pictures for you.

                                        1_1553109473984_IMG_20190320_201222.jpg
                                        0_1553109473984_IMG_20190320_201016.jpg

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
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                                          Can you measure the resistance between the two wires? What size is the bed heater?

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • AimRabbitundefined
                                            AimRabbit @dc42
                                            last edited by

                                            @dc42 said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

                                            Can you measure the resistance between the two wires? What size is the bed heater?

                                            I measured 3 ohm and the size is 330x330mm.

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