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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
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      What is your power supply?

      Are the VIN terminals screwed down tightly?

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      • AimRabbitundefined
        AimRabbit @Phaedrux
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        @phaedrux said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

        What is your power supply?

        Are the VIN terminals screwed down tightly?

        PSU is 24V/15A
        and yes I screwed it tight down.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @AimRabbit
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          Have you tested the output of the PSU with a multimeter?

          It could be failing. Do you have another 24v PSU to test with?

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          • mrehorstdmdundefined
            mrehorstdmd
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            Is there a T0 or T1 statement to select a tool somewhere in a config file or in the print gcode?

            https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator @mrehorstdmd
              last edited by Phaedrux

              @mrehorstdmd Yeah there is one inserted by cura in the slicer start code.

              ;FLAVOR:RepRap
              ;TIME:917
              ;Filament used: 1.36441m, 0m
              ;Layer height: 0.2
              ;Generated with Cura_SteamEngine 4.0.0
              T0
              M190 S60
              M104 S210
              M109 S210
              M82 ;absolute extrusion mode
              G28 ;Home
              G1 Z15.0 F6000 ;Move the platform down 15mm
              ;Prime the extruder
              G92 E0
              G1 F200 E3
              G92 E0
              M83 ;relative extrusion mode
              G1 F1500 E-6.5
              ;LAYER_COUNT:100
              ;LAYER:0
              M107 P1
              G0 F3600 X130.865 Y142.007 Z0.3
              ;TYPE:SKIRT
              G1 F1500 E6.5
              G1 F2400 X131.315 Y141.665 E0.0282
              G1 X131.808 Y141.389 E0.02819
              G1 X132.336 Y141.185 E0.02824
              G1 X132.886 Y141.058 E0.02816
              G1 X133.509 Y141.009 E0.03118
              G1 X153.491 Y141.01 E0.99691
              

              If there wasn't the heater wouldn't heat.

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              • AimRabbitundefined
                AimRabbit @mrehorstdmd
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                @mrehorstdmd said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

                Is there a T0 or T1 statement to select a tool somewhere in a config file or in the print gcode?

                I don't think so. I uploaded the gcode. It's in the first post as an attachment.

                @Phaedrux I'll will check the VIN and give feedback in a few minutes

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                • AimRabbitundefined
                  AimRabbit @Phaedrux
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                  @phaedrux said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

                  Have you tested the output of the PSU with a multimeter?

                  It could be failing. Do you have another 24v PSU to test with?

                  Yeah you were right 😢 the VIN decreases from ~24V to ~10V.
                  Did you know a good PSU which I could buy? It seems that I have no luck with that printer.

                  I had to change nearly every piece exclude the frame 😭

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @AimRabbit
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                    I would recommend a Meanwell PSU. The wattage will depend on if you're powering a PCB bed heater as well, or if it's an SSR controlled AC mains heater.

                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_the_power_supply

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                    • mrehorstdmdundefined
                      mrehorstdmd
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                      I second that. MeanWell makes good stuff. Avoid the cheapo "LED" power supplies that litter ebay. MeanWells cost just a few $ more and are far more reliable.

                      How can you tell junk from the good stuff? Look for certification marks like CE, UL, TUV, etc. The more of those it has, the better.

                      https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator @mrehorstdmd
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                        @mrehorstdmd said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

                        How can you tell junk from the good stuff?

                        It also helps to buy from reputable distributors like mouser or digikey.

                        Here's the one I use. (canadian mouser store front) https://www.mouser.ca/ProductDetail/Mean-Well/SE-200-24/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsPs3th5F8koBXG%2F88ctzcM7%252bcCQ8TI45g%3D

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                        • AimRabbitundefined
                          AimRabbit @Phaedrux
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                          @phaedrux said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

                          Meanwell

                          Ok. And yes I have a PCB bed heater connected to the duet.
                          What a PSU could you recomment for a Duet 2 Wifi, PanelDue 7i, E3D Chimera, PCB bed heater, one tool fan and two part fans. I realy appreciate your help. Thanks a lot!

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                          • AimRabbitundefined
                            AimRabbit @Phaedrux
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                            @phaedrux said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:
                            canadian mouser store front

                            Sorry but I'm from germany and it's very expensive to ship and tax. But thank you now I know what I'll looking for. 🙂 Hopefully everything will work after that replacement.

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
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                              Well Mouser is just an example of a reputable distributor. You'd have to find something similar locally.

                              The PSU I linked is suitable for a printer without a PCB heated bed.

                              This link will help you calculate how big the PSU needs to be: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_the_power_supply

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                              • dc42undefined
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                                Your power supply voltage is probably dropping when the bed heater turns on. Is your bed heater definitely a 24V one; or if it is dual voltage, have you wired it for 24V not 12V?

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                • AimRabbitundefined
                                  AimRabbit
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                                  @dc42 said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

                                  Your power supply voltage is probably dropping when the bed heater turns on. Is your bed heater definitely a 24V one; or if it is dual voltage, have you wired it for 24V not 12V?

                                  Yes it drops at heating the bed. I asked you that in an other thread but you didn't answer I thought of this it doesn't matter.
                                  Ok now I take a look at it but there are no hints if it's 12V or 24V. I can see that there are 3 points where you can wire it. I took 2 pictures for you.

                                  1_1553109473984_IMG_20190320_201222.jpg
                                  0_1553109473984_IMG_20190320_201016.jpg

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                                  • dc42undefined
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                                    Can you measure the resistance between the two wires? What size is the bed heater?

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      AimRabbit @dc42
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                                      @dc42 said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

                                      Can you measure the resistance between the two wires? What size is the bed heater?

                                      I measured 3 ohm and the size is 330x330mm.

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                                      • AimRabbitundefined
                                        AimRabbit
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                                        @dc42 I have to correct my answer after using an other multimeter I get 1,3 ohm

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                                          dc42 administrators @AimRabbit
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                                          @aimrabbit said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

                                          @dc42 I have to correct my answer after using an other multimeter I get 1,3 ohm

                                          That's a 12V bed heater. As you are using 24V power, you need a 24V one. That explains why your PSU was shutting down.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • AimRabbitundefined
                                            AimRabbit @dc42
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                                            @dc42 said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

                                            @aimrabbit said in CoreXY axis don't move at printing:

                                            @dc42 I have to correct my answer after using an other multimeter I get 1,3 ohm

                                            That's a 12V bed heater. As you are using 24V power, you need a 24V one. That explains why your PSU was shutting down.

                                            Is there a way that the heating bed can be used with 24V? Or do I have to buy a new one and where can I get a good one in that size?

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