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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt
      last edited by fcwilt

      Hi,

      You also might like to check out the Zesty Nimble family. It combines the best of direct drive and Bowden "drive" with few of the shortcomings.

      It's a geared unit and my steps/mm setting is 2700. For me a retraction setting of 1mm at 30mm/sec works well.

      I recently equipped both of my printers with them. I'm as happy as clam at high tide with the results.

      Frederick

      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • zaptaundefined
        zapta @fcwilt
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        @fcwilt, I recently saw a video about it, IIRC it was a MRRF interview. Very interesting. I cam currently stabilizing a new CoreXy printer but once it will settle down Zesty will definitely be on the short list.

        My Bowden is 60cm long so I presume I need the Nimble 75cm cable, and will also need some loose ID PTFE tube for the filament feed.

        How is it attached to the X carriage? Some holding screws or just being attached to the top of the hotend (e.g. V6)?

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti
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          @zapta said in Extruder's stepper - 1.8deg or 0.9deg?:

          How is it attached to the X carriage? Some holding screws or just being attached to the top of the hotend (e.g. V6)?

          they are making all adapter available on thingiverse.
          https://www.thingiverse.com/ZestyTech/collections/adaptors-for-the-nimble

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          • zaptaundefined
            zapta @Veti
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            @veti, that's very useful, thanks. I do see mounting screws which is good. It's interesting that the use the sidewinder for the HEVO. I would think everything going up and tied together (extruder cable, electric wires and filament PTFE tube).

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @zapta
              last edited by

              @zapta said in Extruder's stepper - 1.8deg or 0.9deg?:

              @veti, that's very useful, thanks. I do see mounting screws which is good. It's interesting that the use the sidewinder for the HEVO. I would think everything going up and tied together (extruder cable, electric wires and filament PTFE tube).

              I recently fitted a Nimble feeding a E3D V6 to my FT-5. I designed and printed the mount.

              I used a vertical Nimble and used the drive cable as a support for the wires going to the hotend.

              I did not use any sort of tubing as a filament guide, I just feed directly off the spool. A tube might be a good idea.

              After I got Nimble up and running I decided the mount would be a good place to add a pair of fans for part cooling.

              As I type I am printing the parts involved in that.

              Attached is a picture of the experiment to see how a part cooling fan would work before I undertook modifying the mount to accept the fans.

              0_1554665212416_FT-5 Fan Mount Experiment.jpg

              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
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                @fcwilt said in Extruder's stepper - 1.8deg or 0.9deg?:

                I recently fitted a Nimble feeding a E3D V6 to my FT-5. I designed and printed the mount.

                in toms mrrf video they said they will design an adapter for every printer. you just have to contact them.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @Veti
                  last edited by

                  @veti They even have an adapter for a Titan Aero! ROFL!

                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @Veti
                    last edited by fcwilt

                    @veti said in Extruder's stepper - 1.8deg or 0.9deg?:

                    @fcwilt said in Extruder's stepper - 1.8deg or 0.9deg?:

                    I recently fitted a Nimble feeding a E3D V6 to my FT-5. I designed and printed the mount.

                    in toms mrrf video they said they will design an adapter for every printer. you just have to contact them.

                    I do remember hearing that.

                    I'm fine with designing my own parts.

                    Adding the fans led to some conflicts with existing original parts of the printer. I had to work out a fix for those issues which led to designing other parts.

                    Great fun when it all comes together.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • zaptaundefined
                      zapta @fcwilt
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                      @fcwilt said in Extruder's stepper - 1.8deg or 0.9deg?:

                      I recently fitted a Nimble feeding a E3D V6 to my FT-5. I designed and printed the mount.

                      What kind of a stepper do you use for the nimble? With the 30:1 gear ration I presume that a small pancake 1.8deg stepper is more than enough.

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @zapta
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                        @zapta said in Extruder's stepper - 1.8deg or 0.9deg?:

                        @fcwilt said in Extruder's stepper - 1.8deg or 0.9deg?:

                        I recently fitted a Nimble feeding a E3D V6 to my FT-5. I designed and printed the mount.

                        What kind of a stepper do you use for the nimble? With the 30:1 gear ration I presume that a small pancake 1.8deg stepper is more than enough.

                        I would imagine. I just used what I had on hand - nothing special - a typical 1.8 stepper.

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • zaptaundefined
                          zapta @Phaedrux
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                          I tried installing a half length 0.9deg stepper but the one I got didn't have a flat side on the shaft, shaft was barely long enough and the depth of the 4 mounting screw was not as deep as a standard stepper. Will get to it another time. It looks nicer though on my printer than the full size stepper.

                          https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W96BBF6

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                          • gtj0undefined
                            gtj0
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                            +1 for the Nimble. Been using it for a while now and it's working great...
                            0_1554834663956_IMG_20190409_122210.jpg

                            It's a little hard to see but that's because it's so small. It tucks right between my hotend and part cooling ducts,

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