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    • grabercarsundefined
      grabercars @bot
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      @bot It is not. The panel and all electronics are located at the top of the machine.

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
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        What firmware versions are you running?

        I can't see anything obvious in the gcode file, and can't think of a reason why it would deselect a tool.

        Were there any other error messages in the gcode console? Perhaps a heater fault?

        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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        • grabercarsundefined
          grabercars @Phaedrux
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          @phaedrux I didn't see anything in the code either.

          Firmware is all updated fresh last week. I'm away from the machine and can give you the M115 response later today.

          The printer has been restarted since the issue and I didn't see anything temp related but I may have missed it.

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          • grabercarsundefined
            grabercars @Phaedrux
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            @phaedrux said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

            What firmware versions are you running?

            M115 returns : Version 2.02(rtos) electronics duet wifi 1.02 or later. Date 2018-12-24b1

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              If it happens again, try to scan through the console page to see any other error messages, and send a M122 to get a diagnostic report.

              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
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                Also you might want to turn logging on.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                • jaurandundefined
                  jaurand
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                  i also am getting these same error messages during a print. really confused as what could be happening as they occur at about 6hrs in two separate prints

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @jaurand
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                    @jaurand said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                    i also am getting these same error messages during a print. really confused as what could be happening as they occur at about 6hrs in two separate prints

                    Have you searched your GCode file for T commands, and checked that they all refer to tools that you have created using M563 commands in config,g?

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                    • jaurandundefined
                      jaurand @dc42
                      last edited by jaurand

                      @dc42 I have not, as the GCode file is 45MB and I was able to successfully complete other smaller prints with no issue. I only have one tool and it starts the print just fine. Would it be better to put the T command in Cura in the startup file section? (sorry at work and not sure of the exact term)

                      The only odd thing I can think may be an issue is I used Curas "Print on my Printer" selection rather than uploading the file to Duet and then printing from the browser.

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                      • jaurandundefined
                        jaurand @dc42
                        last edited by jaurand

                        @dc42 just ran the same file and completed without any error, only difference was uploading it directly to duetwifi and starting print from web browser.

                        There must have been an error when having Cura begin the print and the file might have corrupted on the transfer I suppose?

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators @jaurand
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                          @jaurand said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                          There must have been an error when having Cura begin the print and the file might have corrupted on the transfer I suppose?

                          It does sound like that. You may have a USB ground loop, see the wiki for details.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                          • jaurandundefined
                            jaurand
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                            @dc42 said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                            USB ground loop

                            well i got the same error again last night. I'm not even connected via USB is the thing, all over wifi

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators @jaurand
                              last edited by dc42

                              1. Do you have logging enabled (M929)? If so, is there anything of interest in the log file?

                              2. Did the error occur in the same place as previously?

                              3. If you upload the file back to your PC from the Duet, does it compare exactly with the original?

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                              • jaurandundefined
                                jaurand @dc42
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                                @dc42 said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                                1. Do you have logging enabled (M929)? If so, is there anything of interest in the log file?

                                2. Did the error occur in the same place as previously?

                                3. If you upload the file back to your PC from the Duet, does it compare exactly with the original?

                                1. I do not have logging enabled on the config file itself, but I did export the console log file and it only thing that states was the error attempting to extrude with no tool selected, literally an hour after i first started the print.

                                2. This error occurred much earlier than last time, on layer 2 of the print rather than 8 hours into my previous print.

                                3. Comparing the file (checked early in the file since error occurred at layer 2) everything looks the same.

                                At least positive thing to note since once the error occurs the printer does continue to print just does not extrude so at least I do not have a spaghetti monster mess of filament

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                                • deckingmanundefined
                                  deckingman @jaurand
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                                  @jaurand said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                                  ........................................................
                                  The only odd thing I can think may be an issue is I used Curas "Print on my Printer" selection rather than uploading the file to Duet and then printing from the browser.

                                  That is the most likley cause IMO. To prove it one way or another, try uploading the file and printing from the SD card.

                                  Ian
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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators @jaurand
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                                    @jaurand, does your system include a PanelDue, and if so, how long is the cable and what baud rate are you using for its connection?

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                    • jaurandundefined
                                      jaurand @dc42
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                                      @dc42 It does include a Paneldue, baudrate is set to 57600 on both the panel and in the config file using M575.

                                      At work at the moment so not able to be exact on cable length but its not super long, maybe 12 to 16 inches.

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
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                                        Please send M575 P1 to your Duet from the console and check that the response includes "requires checksum".

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                        • jaurandundefined
                                          jaurand @dc42
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                                          @dc42 said in Attempting to extrude with no tool selected - During Print:

                                          M575 P1

                                          Yep requires check sum

                                          M575 P1
                                          Channel 1: baud rate 57600, requires checksum

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators
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                                            We had situations a few years ago in which commands from PanelDue were getting corrupted and causing printing to stop. That's why we set the port to require a valid checksum. Unfortunately it's only and 8-bit checksum, so errors can still get through. In case this is causing the problem, I suggest you test whether the problem goes away if you disconnect the PanelDue. If it does, then check the PanelDue cable for a bad connection. The resistance of the cable must be not more than 0.1 ohm per conductor.

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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