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    • dc42undefined
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      When you try to extrude, do you get about 4V between pins 5 and 6 (MF+ and MF-) on the external driver, with pin 5 being positive?

      Likewise you can check that you are getting 4V between DIR+ and DIR- and that the polarity reverses when you reverse the direction.

      It's harder to test STEP, but you should have -4V on STEP+ relative to STEP-. The step pulses themselves will be too short to measure with a multimeter.

      Try increasing the T2.5 parameter to a higher value such as T10. If that fixes it then you can try lower values.

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        Billsrf @dc42
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        @dc42 im using the remapping M code to set the pulse dir. But, it will not accept it. I upload it, reset the firmware and go back to check it and the step timing is not there, its not updating the settings. I am getting 3.8 volts+ and 3.7V- across the DIR+ and -. The little blue light flashes when I hit extrude like it is getting the command pulse. The motor is active mode, ie.. when it is powered, i cannot move the motor by hand. 0_1559312541048_config (1).g 0_1559312553022_M569.JPG

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          @dc42 says only 3 axis visable? 0_1559313385893_M584 B.JPG

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          • dc42undefined
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            I'm sorry, I haven't yet found a way to view a .g file on an Android tablet. If anyone knows how to, please tell me. Otherwise I'll look at this tomorrow.

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            • Phaedruxundefined
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              @dc42 said in Expansion board setup on Duet3D wifi using external controller:

              I'm sorry, I haven't yet found a way to view a .g file on an Android tablet. If anyone knows how to, please tell me. Otherwise I'll look at this tomorrow.

              I don't use Android myself, but one of these perhaps? https://techwiser.com/android-text-editor-for-programming/

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                @phaedrux said in Expansion board setup on Duet3D wifi using external controller:

                @dc42 said in Expansion board setup on Duet3D wifi using external controller:

                I'm sorry, I haven't yet found a way to view a .g file on an Android tablet. If anyone knows how to, please tell me. Otherwise I'll look at this tomorrow.

                I don't use Android myself, but one of these perhaps? https://techwiser.com/android-text-editor-for-programming/

                The problem seems to be that the app has to declare to Android what file extensions it supports, and I haven't yet found an editor that declares .g and/or .gcode as a supported extension.

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                • dc42undefined
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                  @billsrf said in Expansion board setup on Duet3D wifi using external controller:

                  @dc42 im using the remapping M code to set the pulse dir. But, it will not accept it. I upload it, reset the firmware and go back to check it and the step timing is not there, its not updating the settings. I am getting 3.8 volts+ and 3.7V- across the DIR+ and -. The little blue light flashes when I hit extrude like it is getting the command pulse. The motor is active mode, ie.. when it is powered, i cannot move the motor by hand. 0_1559312541048_config (1).g 0_1559312553022_M569.JPG

                  From the config.g file that you posted:

                  ; Drives
                  M569 P0 S1 ; Physical drive X goes forwards
                  M569 P1 S1 ; Physical drive Y goes forwards
                  M569 P2 S1 ; Physical drive Z goes forwards
                  M569 P5 S0 ; Physical drive EXT goes backwards
                  M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E5 ; Apply custom drive mapping

                  So you have not set the step pulse timing on driver 5.

                  Your earlier posts suggested that when you sent M569 P5 T2.5:2.5:2.5:2.5 from the command line, it wasn't sticking, or possibly the board was resetting. Which firmware version are you using?

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                    Billsrf @dc42
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                    @dc42 here is the firmware version.0_1559596852707_Firmware version.JPG

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                    • dc42undefined
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                      Please upgrade to firmware 2.02 and then try the M569 command again: send M569 P5 T2.5:2.5:2.5:2.5 from the command line or in config,g, then send M569 P5 from the command line and see if the correct parameters are reported.

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                        Billsrf @dc42
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                        @dc42 said in Expansion board setup on Duet3D wifi using external controller:

                        M569 P5 T2.5:2.5:2.5:2.5

                        I did as you said and it updated, but not what I typed in..??? still does not move. I went to a better driver controller but still no movement.0_1559655166957_M569.JPG 0_1559655180593_ACE-102_Manual_Rev_1.07.pdf 0_1559655190635_config (2).g

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                          @dc42 is my tool map correct?0_1559659225614_Tool Select.JPG

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                            Billsrf @dc42
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                            @dc42 @phaedrux it will not allow up date to active high setting either. Im very confused why it will not change settings??? I set the R to 1 as it says in the wiki, M569 P5 R1 T2.5:2.5:5.0 and it does't change anything. 0_1559665353230_M569-2.JPG

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                              Billsrf @dc42
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                              @dc42 @phaedrux Sorry to be a bother, but, It takes the M569 command till you reset the firmware, ie.. shut off and back on. Then it goes back to original settings.0_1559672716402_M569-3.JPG

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                              • dc42undefined
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                                @billsrf said in Expansion board setup on Duet3D wifi using external controller:

                                @dc42 @phaedrux it will not allow up date to active high setting either. Im very confused why it will not change settings??? I set the R to 1 as it says in the wiki, M569 P5 R1 T2.5:2.5:5.0 and it does't change anything. 0_1559665353230_M569-2.JPG

                                R1 on the M569 command is needed when connecting stepstick and similar drivers directly to the expansion connector of the Duet. It is not needed when connecting large external drivers via the breakout board.

                                The test for whether the R parameter is correct is to see whether the stepper motors are locked. With the correct setting, the motor shafts should be free to move after power up, but each motor should lock the first time you try to move it.

                                The step pulse timings get rounded up to the next multiple of whole step clocks. That is why the values reported by M569 are a little larger than the values you commanded.

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                                  Billsrf @dc42
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                                  @dc42 @Phaedrux the external motor is locked when you power up the board before activating that Extruder. So what is the next step?

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                                    Billsrf @dc42
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                                    @dc42 @Phaedrux I restarted the controller and checked the M569 and this it what it said. but, the motor is still in lock mode 0_1559681362446_M569-4.JPG

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                                    • dc42undefined
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                                      I suspect there is an error in the M569 P5 command in your config.g file, because it looks like it has not been executed.

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                                      • Billsrfundefined
                                        Billsrf @dc42
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                                        @dc42 ok, how do we fix the error? also, i disconnected the enable wires and it now turns CW when extrude or retract is activated.

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                                        • Billsrfundefined
                                          Billsrf @dc42
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                                          @dc42 ok, disconnected the enable + & -. Now it works like it is supposed to. Why is this happening?

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                                            @billsrf said in Expansion board setup on Duet3D wifi using external controller:

                                            @dc42 ok, disconnected the enable + & -. Now it works like it is supposed to. Why is this happening?

                                            It sounds to me that the MF input of the driver is actually a disable input, not an enable input. Either add R1 to the M569 command, or swap the MF+ and MF- wires over.

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