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    • sLpFhaWKundefined
      sLpFhaWK
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      I can't PID tune my Aero either. I don't particularly care for how quick RRF cancels the tune just because it goes over temp by .1 degree. Usually in tuning it goes over I thought to know what value's to change to not overshoot the temp by too much.

      This is also a 24v Aero, I don't know if the crappy meter I have is good enough to test the resistance and I Will check that tomorrow but my crimps are all solid on both ends.

      -sLpFhaWK
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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
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        @sLpFhaWK:

        I can't PID tune my Aero either. I don't particularly care for how quick RRF cancels the tune just because it goes over temp by .1 degree. Usually in tuning it goes over I thought to know what value's to change to not overshoot the temp by too much.

        It's changed in version 1.18, you set a target temperature and normally leave the PWM at 1.0.

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        • DjDemonDundefined
          DjDemonD
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          Reading this it seems likely that e3d have shipped a batch (at least 2) of duff heater cartridges.

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          • sLpFhaWKundefined
            sLpFhaWK
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            @dc42:

            @sLpFhaWK:

            I can't PID tune my Aero either. I don't particularly care for how quick RRF cancels the tune just because it goes over temp by .1 degree. Usually in tuning it goes over I thought to know what value's to change to not overshoot the temp by too much.

            It's changed in version 1.18, you set a target temperature and normally leave the PWM at 1.0.

            Okie. I will give that a shot later, I am currently printing something to test everything. For now everything seems to be working but I have the heated bed on Bang Bang and it over shoots the temp by like 9 degrees. No idea why, my other Kossel doesn't do that.

            -sLpFhaWK
            Ultibots K250v
            Rostock Max v2 Soon to be Full MetalMax
            Mini Kossel

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
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              @sLpFhaWK:

              For now everything seems to be working but I have the heated bed on Bang Bang and it over shoots the temp by like 9 degrees. No idea why, my other Kossel doesn't do that.

              That suggests that the thermistor is not in good thermal contact with the bed plate. Switching to PID may help, but even if you do then it would be better if you can improve the thermal contact.

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              • mhackneyundefined
                mhackney
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                David, I'm reasonably convinced I have a bad cartridge. Two other 24V 30W cartridges work perfectly but this one does not. I can even tell that something is not quite right because it seems to "take off" slow and raises temp very slowly.

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                • mhackneyundefined
                  mhackney
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                  Some more data, I received 3 hot ends directly from E3D this week to test. They all have 30W 24V heater cartridges. I measured the resistance of each:

                  Aero that led to this post: 20.5 ohms (28W)
                  2nd heater: 19.5 ohms (29.5W)
                  3rd heater: 19.2 ohms (30W)

                  According to E3D docs, all are within +/- 5W spec. I have not tested the other two yet.

                  If I put the "defective" cartridge in my V6 that I swapped the cartridge out of and use the PID tuning I had done for it - which should be in the ballpark - the Aero cartridge raises temp from RT very slowly as previously observed and then errors out at around 118deg C.

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
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                    Do you have silicone socks on your heater blocks? They make a big difference to the heater power you need.

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                    • mhackneyundefined
                      mhackney
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                      David, yes I am a big advocate of the silicone socks and have them on all my E3D hot ends that have them available.

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                      Coming this summer: "3D Printing Strategies - the art of perfecting your designs and prints"

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                      • TwoToneundefined
                        TwoTone
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                        Interesting, I mentioned I have the same error when trying to AutoTune my bed even though I see the temp increasing when it cancels.

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