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    • dc42undefined
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      I think that reduction in trigger height was spurious, nothing to do with the firmware upgrade. If anything, the trigger height should be higher using 1.18, not lower.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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      • mhackneyundefined
        mhackney
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        I've gone through the printer mechanics and configs and it is still behaving as described. Multiple deletes of config-override and resets. It's almost as if G31 Z offset is not being applied.

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        • mhackneyundefined
          mhackney
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          David, I downgraded to 1.17 and my original Z offset is working perfectly. I'll re-convert to 1.18 when I get time early this week and try again.

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          • dc42undefined
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            Michael, have you tried printing using 1.18 and your old height offset?

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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            • dc42undefined
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              @mhackney:

              I've gone through the printer mechanics and configs and it is still behaving as described. Multiple deletes of config-override and resets. It's almost as if G31 Z offset is not being applied.

              That can happen if you put the G31 command earlier in config.g than the M558 command. This is because RRF stores different G31 parameters for different types of Z probe, to allow you to use more than one probe.

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              • mhackneyundefined
                mhackney
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                @dc42:

                Michael, have you tried printing using 1.18 and your old height offset?

                David, yes that is actually what I was trying to articulate above. With the same height offset I had to baby step down an additional 0.20mm. If I then change my height offset to -.35mm I STILL have to baby step down .20mm. That's what's strange. I see your second post about order so let me verify that, although once committed to config-override.g the correct order is captured, correct?

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                • mhackneyundefined
                  mhackney
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                  @dc42:

                  @mhackney:

                  I've gone through the printer mechanics and configs and it is still behaving as described. Multiple deletes of config-override and resets. It's almost as if G31 Z offset is not being applied.

                  That can happen if you put the G31 command earlier in config.g than the M558 command. This is because RRF stores different G31 parameters for different types of Z probe, to allow you to use more than one probe.

                  Understood and I do have them in the correct order. I actually take advantage of the ability to support different probes on one of my test machines that has the IR probe, FSRs and an accelerometer probe on it so I can do comparisons. On this machine I have:

                  [[language]]
                  ; Z probe and compensation definition
                  M558 P4 X0 Y0 Z0 F250 H3 I1 T3500
                  
                  ; grid compensation
                  M557 R110 S15
                  
                  G31 T4 X0 Y0 Z-.20			; Set the z probe offset and threshold
                  
                  

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                  • dc42undefined
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                    As long as you had the correct probe type selected when you sent the G31 command, then M500 will save it correctly in config-override.g. The G31 commands in that file use the T parameter to say what probe type they refer to. As far as I know, that parameter works correctly. If you suspect it doesn't, run G31 Tn where n is your probe type (as in M558 P parameter) and it will tell you the trigger height that it is using.

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                    • mhackneyundefined
                      mhackney
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                      Today I built a new CF card from a backup set of config files I had. I turned off the printer, installed the new card and restarted. Verified that there was no config-override.g, checked my offsets, Z height and other calibration settings. All looked good. Calibrated, looked good (0.01 deviation) then I verified height and it seemed spot on. Started a print and the first layer looks fine. I'm waiting for it (1 layer) to complete so I can verify thickness.

                      But it does seem like I must have displeased the 3D Printing Deities this weekend and now I'm back in good standing.

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                      • sLpFhaWKundefined
                        sLpFhaWK
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                        hopefully my red head sacrifice takes hold and the gods will be pleased with me. we'll find out tomorrow, I don't wish to pursue any 3d printing tonight.

                        -sLpFhaWK
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