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    • A Former User?
      A Former User @stereo
      last edited by

      @stereo said in RepRapFirmware 3.0beta 11 released:

      where Duet3iap_sd_MB6HC.bin?

      https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/releases/tag/3.0beta10 ?

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      • stereoundefined
        stereo @A Former User
        last edited by

        @bearer 3.0beta10.. need 3.0beta11

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        • A Former User?
          A Former User @stereo
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          @stereo said in RepRapFirmware 3.0beta 11 released:

          @bearer 3.0beta10.. need 3.0beta11

          the IAP file is probably the same if its not listed on the beta11 release

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          • stereoundefined
            stereo @A Former User
            last edited by

            @bearer yes, work. install beta11

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            • A Former User?
              A Former User @dc42
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              @dc42 said in RepRapFirmware 3.0beta 11 released:

              It works for me. Tested using a BLTouch connected to zprobe.in and exp.heater3, G31 P value set to 100.

              hm, that's not good

              It's possible that you have a G31 command in config-override.g.

              I did not create it, I don't see it trough web interface..

              btw you don't need the M401 and M402 commands in your homez file, because probe deployment/retraction is done automatically (this has been the case for many firmware versions).

              so G30 auto deploy/retract? nice.. but I'm now more concerned that after G30 I touch the probe, the probe detects me, bed still moves, the probe deploy again, touch again, detect again, deploy again .. bed still moving etc etc.. so no bed stop and no retraction happening at all (G30 not finishing) .. exactly the same config on b10 works, b11 don't. tried G31 P10, P100, P200 .. It's not a working printer (yet) so not a big deal but if there's anything I can help debug lemme know πŸ™‚ (I can hook up oscilloscope or .. ) .. this is supposedly original bltouch v3 .. but "original" when bltouch is can be tricky 😞 ... I have 2 "original" (from "original aliexpress store" paid original price), I have 2-3 clones too that I can try also .. might be the timing issue and not only the trigger level?

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              • Danalundefined
                Danal
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                @smece said in RepRapFirmware 3.0beta 11 released:
                It's possible that you have a G31 command in config-override.g.

                I did not create it, I don't see it trough web interface..

                If you don't see it via the web interface, it is likely not there.

                But just to help understand the full picture: That file is created and/or updated when you issue an M500. That is often documented in other firmware as "save settings to EEPROM". Duets do not have EEPROM, so they save settings to /sys/config-override.g

                Anyway, sounds like you don't have one.

                Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                • A Former User?
                  A Former User
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                  @Danal thanks for explanation! ... did not do M500 yet πŸ˜„ since this is a work in progres conversion to duet, and I never used duet before, i'm trying to setup everything directly in main config's for now πŸ˜„ .. that's also why I started with RRF3 and not gone with stable version πŸ˜„ (still don't have thermistors nor heaters in the hotends so..)

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
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                    @smece, just to confirm:

                    • You are using RRF3 on a Duet WiFi
                    • You have connected the BLTouch white wire to IN on the ZProbe connector, and the black wire to GND on the ZProbe connector
                    • You are getting a reading of 0 for the Z probe in DWC
                    • If you disconnect the BLTouch from the Z probe connector, you get a reading of 250 for the Z probe
                    • If you send G31 without parameters, it reports the P parameter is 100 (or whatever you set it to, less than 250)
                    • You had the BLTouch working with firmware 3.0beta10

                    Is that all correct?

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • stereoundefined
                      stereo
                      last edited by stereo

                      On update 10->11 not work homex(y)(all) files. Change S1 to H1..

                      G91 ; relative positioning
                      G1 H1 X-355 F1800 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                      no reaction to the command at least earlier moved where necessary.

                      Immediately provide 0.

                      G91
                      G1 X-5
                      NOT WORK TO! IF X = 0

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                      • A Former User?
                        A Former User @dc42
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                        @dc42 said in RepRapFirmware 3.0beta 11 released:

                        @smece, just to confirm:

                        • You are using RRF3 on a Duet WiFi

                        No, Duet2Ethernet, RRF3.0beta10 works, RRF3.0beta11 does not

                        not sure if duet wifi is the same board (I guess it is, with the net module difference, but can't be sure)

                        • You have connected the BLTouch white wire to IN on the ZProbe connector, and the black wire to GND on the ZProbe connector

                        Yes

                        • You are getting a reading of 0 for the Z probe in DWC

                        Yes

                        • If you disconnect the BLTouch from the Z probe connector, you get a reading of 250 for the Z probe

                        No clue what was DWC showing but when I disconnect zprobe (just the zprobe.in and gnd, was not touching the power and servo) and shoot G31 I get

                        Current reading 250

                        So I assume DWC is doing same and showing 250

                        • If you send G31 without parameters, it reports the P parameter is 100 (or whatever you set it to, less than 250)

                        Yes

                        • You had the BLTouch working with firmware 3.0beta10

                        Yes, it's on beta10 now and works flawlesly

                        When on beta10 I disconnect probe
                        DWC shows 1000
                        G31 shows

                        G31
                        Current reading 1000, threshold 100, trigger height 2.20, offsets X35.0 Y0.0
                        

                        rebooting now into beta11

                        DWC showing 250
                        G31:

                        G31
                        Current reading 250, threshold 100, trigger height 2.20, offsets X35.0 Y0.0
                        

                        connecting connector back
                        DWC showing 0
                        G31:

                        G31
                        Current reading 0, threshold 100, trigger height 2.20, offsets X35.0 Y0.0
                        

                        executing
                        G0X0Y0
                        G30 ; so no deploy/retract as you said

                        bed start closing in as expected, I trigger the bltouch with finger, bed continues to move bltouch deploy again I trigger again it deploys aga I trigger again ... bed moves ... I powercycle the printer

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                        • A Former User?
                          A Former User
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                          now I tried (beta11) to jenk the cable during G30 and

                          10/23/2019, 10:05:32 PM 	G30
                          Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
                          

                          this error is probbly 'cause my probing is configured (don't remembe where) to touch out 2 times so when it started the second round it was still triggered..

                          do you want me to measure length of the impulse BLT sends when is triggered? I read somewhere that original v3 bltouch might be too fast for some firmware to detect.. should be simple to capture.

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                          • stereoundefined
                            stereo
                            last edited by stereo

                            Do all home X, Y work fine? Am I the only one? show homex.g
                            On beta10

                            G91 ; relative positioning
                            G1 Z5 F6000 H2 ; lift Z relative to current position
                            G1 H1 X-335 F1800 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                            G1 X5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
                            G1 H1 X-335 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                            G1 Z-5 F6000 H2 ; lower Z again
                            G90 ; absolute positioning

                            work good.

                            On beta11 goto Z5,Z-5,X5.. but does not go to the microswitch.

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators @stereo
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                              @stereo said in RepRapFirmware 3.0beta 11 released:

                              Do all home X, Y work fine? Am I the only one? show homex.g
                              On beta10

                              G91 ; relative positioning
                              G1 Z5 F6000 H2 ; lift Z relative to current position
                              G1 H1 X-335 F1800 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                              G1 X5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
                              G1 H1 X-335 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                              G1 Z-5 F6000 H2 ; lower Z again
                              G90 ; absolute positioning

                              work good.

                              On beta11 goto Z5,Z-5,X5.. but does not go to the microswitch.

                              Please post your config.g file. Which Duet are you using?

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • stereoundefined
                                stereo @dc42
                                last edited by stereo

                                @dc42 shot_191024_124521.png shot_191024_124938.png

                                M574 X1 S1 P"io0.in" or
                                M574 X1 S0 P"io0.in"
                                on beta11 always triggered YES.

                                IF RUN "M574 Y2 S0","M574 X1 S0" work fine NO...

                                normal config on beta10:
                                M574 X1 S0 P"io0.in"

                                Duet3

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                                • A Former User?
                                  A Former User @dc42
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                                  @dc42 FOUND THE CAUSE OF THE BUG πŸ˜„

                                  This is ZPROBE.IN in beta10 (bltouch disconnected)

                                  34b3b580-bc57-4f8a-908d-2ffea12884f3-image.png

                                  as you can see ~3V with some ugly 50Hz garbage that should not interfere

                                  but this is ZPROBE.IN in beta11 (bltouch disconnected)

                                  60c767d3-a300-4035-a997-b5be9b246698-image.png

                                  as you can see it's floating around 1V at 50Hz so I'd say ZPROBE.IN is HIZ at this point and there is no pullup enabled... I don't see on schematic where zprobe_in becomes zprobe_mcu, are you using external pullup or you just need to configure it as in with pullup enabled .. anyhow .. there's no pullup on zprobe.in with beta11

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                                    A Former User
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                                    found the zprobe_in to zprobe_mcu .. just 10k trough and 2n2 down .. so def port configuration missing πŸ˜„

                                    and I also found the commit that introduced the bug:

                                    src/Endstops/LocalZProbe.cpp:42

                                    https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/blame/c25d73194252791ceb479ced79ffc77b31c810fe/src/Endstops/LocalZProbe.cpp#L42

                                    you switched it from PinAccess::readWithPullup; to PinAccess::read;

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                                      A Former User
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                                      This will probbly work ok with bltouch v2 or v1 as they have 0/1 output, v3/v3.1 is open drain output so it can only pull low. Not sure why you switched from readWithPullup to read, but maybe create a new probe type with pullup, or should we add external pullup if this is to remain without one on the port?

                                      b7c4c4fe-7b67-4c36-8584-1c94bcea4f30-image.png

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                                      • Nuramoriundefined
                                        Nuramori @A Former User
                                        last edited by Nuramori

                                        @smece sadly, I saw your posts 3 minutes too late :p.

                                        Thought my errant height map was a fluke due to a part swap. I dug a nice groove into my test spring plate (luckily I always use a sacrificial test plate whenever I change anything on the printer, hardware or software).

                                        Moving back to 10 brought everything back to β€œnormal”.

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators @A Former User
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                                          @smece said in RepRapFirmware 3.0beta 11 released:

                                          so I'd say ZPROBE.IN is HIZ at this point and there is no pullup enabled... I don't see on schematic where zprobe_in becomes zprobe_mcu, are you using external pullup or you just need to configure it as in with pullup enabled .. anyhow .. there's no pullup on zprobe.in with beta11

                                          Thanks for tracking this down. I removed implicit enabling of pullup resistors in beta 11 because it meant that you couldn't turn them off. If you want to enable the pullup resistor, you need to be explicit by using C"^zprobe.in" in your M558 command.

                                          The BLTouch that I test with is the older version that drives the output high when triggered, that's why I didn't see the problem during testing.

                                          I'll update the documentation to make this clear.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • A Former User?
                                            A Former User @dc42
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                                            @dc42 said in RepRapFirmware 3.0beta 11 released:

                                            you need to be explicit by using C"^zprobe.in" in your M558 command.

                                            Perfect, this solves the problem. Everything works ok now.

                                            M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T3000 A2
                                            M950 S0 C"exp.heater3"
                                            G31 P100 X35 Y0 Z2.2
                                            
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